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First thing first, the Pakistani PM does not have any authority and overwhelming of Pakistanis detest him. Pakistan is being rule exclusively by the military after the imprisonment of the leader who undisputedly won the elections, Mr Khan.
Now this conflict puzzles me. I don´t think Trump could care much about the region so probably not behind it. Israel certainly likes the current military rule in Pakistan so probably will use its resources in Washington to stop it… Israel for sure would not allow Imran Khan to take the Pakistani leadership again.
Now, I am sure US arms industry wants conflict in South Asia to compensate the winding down in Ukraine and the US establishment is excited to drive India more dependent in the US’ weaponry for safety and away from China (that has a stake too in Kashmir.)
One possible theory is that Israel thinks it can provide intel to India about Pakistani nuclear weapons and then for its operatives to get rid of Mr Khan before gets the legitimate power back… but I find it too risky...who knows. I don´t think even the Pakistani nuclear weapons are in working condition with the current Pakistani government that US fully vetted before it took power.
have you considered for a moment, i know it's crazy, that two authoritarian states historically gnashing at the bit to go to war might be doing this of their own volition?
Oh good. Another conflict.
Asking as a Brit, is this our fault too? I don't want to be "it's all about me" but have a hunch it is!
Your ancestors amputated your largest colony with a fake partition which has been dissolving bit by bit through the decades, and painfully.
No. Not your fault. Go enjoy your cake.
Lowkey/partially ... Yes? Partition was mainly driven by British policies and then championed by Jinnah. If not for partition, there would probably just have been a lot of internal conflict in inner large South Asian country.
Why ??
"I wonder why aliens never show themselves to us?! Come in peace!"
.....yeah.
Putting aside the insanely vast distances needed to reach us, we can't even stop killing each other. Why the hell would another intelligent life form want to come here? All we do is kill each other, rob each other, exploit each other. Wonderful societies we have going for us.
I don't know, if I'm the alien in this scenario and could plainly see they don't have the ability to traverse interstellar distances I wouldn't be concerned from a personal safety stand point about making first contact with the intelligent life on a distant planet even if they did show they still had problems with conflict. I'm obviously projecting my own assumptions based on living on Earth but, on Earth inter and intra species conflicts naturally occurr across the kingdoms of life (maybe even all of them?) so it's doesn't seem that unusual.
Maybe if life, and intelligent life particularly, is common and perhaps intelligent civilizations commonly eventually figure out how to avoid conflict, I wouldn't be presumptuous and judgemental because this particular one hadn't got that far yet. It would seem that's something they likely all have to go through and that's just operating on the arbitrary assumption that civilizations somehow do tend to figure out a way to overcome conflict, it could just as well be that they typically don't given how hard it seems to be, so the would be aliens here likely have or have had conflicts of their own.
Kinda scary that the kids from this video are old enough to make good on their pledges, but also that they will probably have to.
I sure hope two nuclear powers don't have a hot war!
It's getting hotter 🥵🥵🥵
Modi is borrowing a page from Natenyaho's book
I for one am hoping that we do get a nuclear winter. Great way to balance out global warming.
Nuclear winter is more about dimming than cooling.
Or in other words, it wouldn't offset temperatures that much, but would negatively impact plant growth/farming and thereby lead to global food shortages.
Psh, tell that to this totally legimate source claiming that nuclear winter and global warming will cancel each other out it.
Supposedly a myth. Not even all nukes in the world would cause it.
I'm not tempted to test the theory in order to find out. Either way, the sudden collapse in human life would put enormous downward pressure on carbon emissions. Can't burn gas if you don't have anyone left to pull it out of the ground.
Reading the wikipedia article on Pakistan's nuclear doctrine and thinking it looks good until I get to this:
No water means the entire country dies.
Logically, they should be fully willing to turn India to glass if India try to cut off the water supply.
This is pretty scary. If something huge kicked off, who would USA support? I feel like Trump is just waiting for his opportunity (ie major war/attack) to declare martial law and extend his presidency past 4 years. I really hope I’m wrong.
On the bright side a hot war between two nuclear powers likely means you won’t have to worry about the next four years.
I don't think Trump is waiting.
Humanity is so lost. I'll hope for the next asteroid impact.
India reusing the oldest false flag playbook in the world as an excuse to start a war.
No proof it was a false flag. This is nonsense, and worse, it is despicable, insensitive nonsense. Lashkar e Toiba is a Pakistani terrorist group. Ajmal Kasab (one of the terrorists in the 2008 Mumbai attacks) had a relative who fought in the Afghanistan as a Mujahideen, and he was trained in similar camps in Pakistan. Bin Laden was found near a Pakistani military academy. David Headley claimed the Pakistani intelligence agency was involved in the Mumbai attacks. The attack in Pahalgam was evidently done by Pakistan, as it doesn't fit the pattern of indigenous Kashmiri militants. Even in the height of militancy, tourists were not targeted as it alienated the business class and local Kashmiris reliant on tourism. This was an implicit agreement. What's more, Kashmiris came out in huge numbers condemning terrorism for the first time on the streets. You show your ignorance again.
India claims to have hit terrorist bases. Pakistani media has already started spreading fake news. It's best to wait it out as propaganda and emotionally charged lies meant to provoke both sides will start pouring in. So stop spreading lies.
So, an organization not affiliated to the government broke the law and that gives India the right to break treaties and start military aggressions against that government?
Why do you think Pakistan had something to do with it? You have provided no evidence. India has been occupying and surpressing Kashmir for decades. You really think those Kashimiris have no reason to get radicalized?
Looks like my theory that WW3 was gonna be a bunch of pocket wars instead of a one side vs the other is coming to fruition.
I'm still wondering when American balkanization will happen. If WW3 isn't in full swing yet by then, it will be afterwards.
It's gotta be getting close now, it feels like a breaking point is coming for America really soon.
From my standpoint as an American citizen of at least 3 generations, I don't think balkanization will be happen here, just because the divisions aren't neatly aligned as of 2020.
Cities tend to be Democrat, rural areas tend to be Republican -- regardless of state. It's not like the Civil War where it was more easily divided.
What's more likely to happen is a full on economic collapse soon. Where things go from there is anyone's guess -- but I don't see balkanization as a part of it. If Trump and team declare martial law and start doing even more human atrocities it might be the spark for WW3. Does that happen before China attacks Taiwan and start WW3?
Regardless of what happens, this is going to be ugly and a whole lot of people are going to die.
With how everything is currently structured, I don't think it's too likely. The people of the individual states that would balkanize, still too strongly believe in a united American nation. The federal government would also have to significantly weaken itself and it's own powers, and it currently seems to be further centralizing and strengthening itself without regard to and in opposition to it's people's political rights and powers.
Ukraine/Russia war (Europe). Israeli genocide of Palestine. Hezb/houthi resistance to Israel. Whatever is going on in Syria. (Middle East). Sudanese genocide with similar small resistance pockets. (Africa). Now India and Pakistan (asia).
We are in the early stages of WW3. Loose allyships are already being revealed.
With the widening rift between the US and China, I imagine Taiwan will become a hot issue soon as well.
That's probably the tipping point at which, allyships will start to be formed more concretely as China has been trying to stay out of things for the most part so far.
Also the civil war in Myanmar that is ongoing. With various degrees of Chinese and Russian involvement.
We're in the hot stages of WWIII.