These are the privacy permissions that you grant for Meta's new twitter competitor

“Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks.“

- Most Harvard students are still just 18-22 year old "kids". Think of how dumb/naive you were at that age.
- Nah, it's just the kids of the wealthiest people and a handful of diversity admissions.
- smartest people in the US
  The problem is that that is a very low bar to overcome
This is still I think the most telling glimpse into who the "ZUCK" really is. Looking at what meta has become, how it has operated... No matter how professional and respectable he acts.
This is who he really is.
- I don't it's a fair assessment - dude was just a kid.
  I've watched some podcasts and interviews and I think he's a much more complex of a person. I do genuinely think he's thinks he's doing good and I do think that Meta stuff is a net benefit to the humanity.
  Even if you hate Facebook it brought people together in so many places, especially if you consider developing world.

This is a reminder to lemmy users, that this new meta expriement will use the ActivityPub protocol, meaning that it can interact with other lemmy instances, please urge your lemmy instance admins to de-federate from this crap as soon as it launches!

But why? Isn't the whole point of federation that we can interact with people in other communities? Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub? Completely walling them off seems counterproductive
Not defending Meta, just curious
- this is why
  there is a very good chance that this project by meta is the thin end of the wedge
  (edited to include "the blogpost", link here)
- Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?
  No. We don't. The more hands they have in the fediverse pie, the more influence they have over it. The more influence they have, the more control. The more control, the more at the whim of their decisions you are. The more at the whim of their decisions, the more power they have over you.
  This should be common sense at this point.
- Don’t we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?
  I certainly don't. I abandoned Facebook years ago because of how BS they were getting with privacy concerns and social manipulation. Last thing I want is to bring those dumpster fires here. They join the platform, I will migrate to whichever Instances defed them or leave Lemmy entirely if necessary. Simply put, it's been a breathe of rational, civil air here. While it is early days keeping that hostile-to-humanity crap out of here is obvious minimum we should be doing.
- Were talking about meta here, this is a bait and switch attempt (I see it that way)
  They launch their new twitter competitor, everyone moves over to their new twitter clone, they will try and hold the power on standarts of federation (like any big tech corporation that has a smaller rival that succedes more then them, see microsoft vs netscape for refrence)
  If they will fail with that, they will try to seduce lemmy and mastodon instaces with monetization and big money handouts, were talking about facebook here after all, they are not short of scummy tactics

Seems reasonable. Where do I put in my social security number and mother's maiden name?

Isn't that just...everything?

Like is there anything they aren't requesting?

Crazy thought, but people don't need Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, any Twitter replacement, etc. I.e. ya'll don't need 'social media'.

Financial Info, Identifiers, Sensitive Info... Woudn't it be easier just to give them my wallet and passport.

If the general public was just aware of how much privacy they lose by downloading these apps, companies like Meta would never be able to get away with stuff like this.

I doubt it. Most of the time when I point out to someone just how much data they're giving up the response is just "so what if a chinese person knows about me"
Privacy for its own sake has lost value with the younger generations. What we really need to do is educate on the consequences and dangers of the lack of privacy.
- New gen here(19). Care about privacy, while most people i know doesn't. It does not depends on gen. It's just most people of any gen, if they get comfortable with service they would not care if it's gonna take every piece of info they have.

jUsT gIvE mETa A cHAnCe iN tHe fEdIVeRsE DuRRrrpH

Meta rolling into the fediverse like the martians in Mars Attacks.
“Don’t run! We’re you’re your friends!”

That seems reasonable. I think I’ll throw in my social security number and DNA sample for good measure… just in case they need it.

They misspelled their service, should be: threats (to your privacy).

When Instagram replacement on Fediverse? Fediverse also needs youtube replacement. Lets go all the way and hit these greedy mfers where it hurts. Unfortunetly my dev skills are poor, but I can offer moral support.

I bet they said something like "we don't use most of that information, we just need access in case we add a new feature in the future that uses it". And then it'll come out that they've always been using it, and it's been associated with your identifying info. And then their server will be hacked (because the admin password was "meta123") and the all the info will leak. The modern internet sucks.

They tried to use the same excuse with their privacy policy for oculus. ie they can even watch the cameras if they want but they promise they won't.....

I run a pair of PiHole instances for DNS on my home network, and I periodically check the logs and look up blocked domains that I don't recognize. Every single time, it's a service that provides telemetry for mobile apps. It's insane how much data apps try to collect.

Don't forget to report it inside Play Store. All of these permissions are not required, thus the app is breaking store rules.

What do you mean its not requierd, but then how will meta sell your data and make billions?/s

Jesus Christ Zuck. It looks like a lizard is running a mammalian study

oh.... I saw a meme about this and thought it was just a joke.

What the hell is “sensitive info”

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/app-privacy-details/
"Such as racial or ethnic data, sexual orientation, pregnancy or childbirth information, disability, religious or philosophical beliefs, trade union membership, political opinion, genetic information, or biometric data"
- The list every totalitarian government used to have to spend hundreds of millions to compile

i don't know why anyone would want to go from something as bad as twitter to a Facebook owned twitter

Most people really don't care :/

This is why I ditched Facebook many years ago. The first time they started to change their TOS and privacy stuff I noped out.

Don't allow Zuck and the billionaire anti-democracy tech bros into Federation.

Yeah, he's a big fan of access. May as well just make an extra category marked "everything".

Wow. I know people are talking a bit about the privacy concerns here on Lemmy, but enterprise social media is something else entirely...

I wouldn't trust Facebook with my Nintendo friend code, let alone all this