4mo ago

Elon Musk is paying voters again ahead of the Wisconsin Supreme Court election

www.theverge.com

Summary

Elon Musk's America PAC is offering $100 to registered voters who sign a petition opposing "activist judges" ahead of Wisconsin's Supreme Court election on April 1st.

The legality of this tactic is debated, as it doesn’t mandate voting but requires voter registration.

The race pits conservative Brad Schimel, backed by Musk’s $14 million, against liberal Judge Susan Crawford, with liberals aiming to retain a 4-3 majority.

Musk's support also ties to Tesla’s lawsuit against Wisconsin's dealership ban.

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4mo ago

Elon Musk is paying voters again ahead of the Wisconsin Supreme Court election

www.theverge.com /news/633834/elon-musk-paying-voters-petition-wisconsin-supreme-court-race

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Cool. Another blatant bribery case that nothing will be done about because he’s above the law.
- Now now, let's not be uncharitable.
  I'm sure someone is working on filing a legal challenge. Thereafter everyone will need several years to collate evidence, then getting everyone in a room can be tough, and then there might be appeals.
  In as little as 7 or 8 short years we could have an answer as to whether or not this petition was allowed to take place.
  
  They'll just dismiss it as the voting is over
  
  While I get the cynicism, it’s not like there are no means to stall a possibly illegal practice until a proper ruling has been done. The judicative branch isn’t entirely toothless and isn’t ignorant of the reality of time-sensitivity.
- The Supreme Court said as much of the President, which is basically Elon.
- Nothing will be done because the voters don't seem to want anything done.
It was illegal last year and the people in charge did not act. Now what're you gonna do? Shortsighted fucking idiots.
I guarantee he used this tactic in '24 to get a list of names and submitted fake ballots in those people's names with an AI algorithm using Ethan Shao Tran's (doge boy who won hackathon in 2020) ballotproof software. Not 1 recount in any of the swing states. If this goes the way I think it will, a recount MUST be demanded.
- @Raiderkev @MicroWave the Election Truth Alliance have found some weird numbers (as have Smart Elections) and are currently asking for people to sign a petition for Pennsylvania to hand recount three specific counties https://youtu.be/LBDqYxZoc14
  
  @Raiderkev @MicroWave here are some of Smart Elections' findings. https://open.substack.com/pub/smartelections/p/so-clean
- Election denialism without proof is just as dumb now as it was when Trump did it.
  Spreading unfounded bullshit is how we got into this mess. It isn't welcome here.
  
  No, it's not. The whole reason Trump lied about so much, and so often, was basically to poison the well, and cry wolf so many times that the opposition would look foolish to make the same claims.
  He was doing that intentionally, knowing the whole time they had a plan to steal 24 and beyond.
  In all honesty, there should always be hand recounts, period. Only frauds and idiots would have an issue with that.
  
  Agreed. What is 100% proven is the fact that Republicans targeted democrats and did voter roll purges. Unethical and a shitty tactic, but evidently legal. This resulted in a LOT of provisional ballots, which are not counted unless the election becomes close.
Hackers need to empty his bank accounts.
- Bro one of the fucking DOGE shitheads left his personal Google calendar in public.
  Not as hard as you think.
It gives them information with which to rig elections. Exactly what he's doing with the entire nation's social security information. Train a model on that, and you instantly have all the information you need to rig an election that is practically undetectable unless you actually go back and review every single ballot, which we know won't happen.
- They’ve bragged about fixing the last election. There are no consequences. We’ll just have to content ourselves with watching Tesla burn along with American democracy.
  
  No, we just have to hold them accountable, that's what the fourth box is for
So can I take his money and vote how I want? How would he know?
- you certainly can. the vote is secret and he'd not be allowed to demand/buy a specific vote. which he is doing, but adding some layer of obfuscation
- It's what I would do. Rich people think everyone else is motivated solely by money, it's kind of their weakness.
- You can take his money vote for the liberal judge take a photo of your vote and send it to him. They can't force you or pay you to vote any specific way. If you sign a contract that breaks the law the contract isn't valid.
Same shit he did that helped him steal the last presidential election. These motherfuckers are buying judges in plain sight.
I'm still not convinced that he isn't doing this to pull some sort of election fraud
- He's already committed election fraud. 2016, he openly solicited an enemy nation to interfere with our elections, which is treason.
  There won't be any peace in this country until him and EVERY SINGLE ONE of his co-conspirators are publicly executed
- This, in and of itself, is literally election fraud.
I OPPOSE Activist Judges which is why I'm Voting for the One BANKROLLED by a BILLIONAIRE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!
Arrest this bastard and throw him in Florence ADmax for life!
Not so long ago, buying votes was illegal
Not free speech
Please take this $100 to turn against your working class friends and help out a billionare in need.
The legality of this tactic is debated
How legal it is entirely depends on who's going to enforce this
In WI and will take the $ and vote how I want. I assume they have some other data preventing this.
- I mean go for it... I assume the strategy on the whole is just a reverse of the supression strategies etc... IE I assume the vast majority of the petitions are going in areas that overwhelmingly voted for trump... and the contact information will be used to overwhelmingly flood with reminders and pushes for them to go out and vote.
  IE it's a legal absolute no to coersively hinder or push voting to people who will vote a certain way, but in this overly tracked flooded with data world. You can find the trends that allow you to target things that aren't illegal, but have overwhelming correlation.
  
  Hmm, so then what we need to do is create honey pot phishing schemes pretending to be musk offering money to vote, but then never send the money, and send out incorrect information regarding the date/time/place of the vote. In addition get people to submit their bank account info to you so you can 'electronically deposit' the money. Only instead, submit the account info to online forums used by criminals.
  The end result will be that people won't get paid, won't show up to vote at the right time/place, and then have all sorts of fraud attempts on their accounts, and they'll blame it on musk
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a relatively recent case (as in the past couple of years) that all-but-legalized bribery in politics anyway?
- Yeah, laws don’t matter anymore.
I've hurt nobody physically and I'm just trying to fix the country sob sob 😭
You know what's disgusting? Just how cheap this is for him. 14 million for him is the equivalent of $35 for someone who is worth $1 million.
The tactic is no longer legally questionable. It's a member of government making opaque donations to manipulate government. It's unquestionably illegal.
OK guess this is a valid tactic now, the opposing side should do it too.
- Liberals just need their own richest man in the world.
  
  We have one, JB pritzker. Fantastic governor, and all around good person.
  I'm hoping he starts a militia/paramilitary force to hunt down prominent MAGAts, but he won't because he's not Russian bought traitor like Trump

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