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Fun fact, the origin story for Satan that so many churches point to just isn’t in the Bible.
The entire concept of hell is basically just fan fiction.
The entire concept of religion is a fan fiction.
Yeah... it is astounding how mixed messages get when people are holding the bloody source material in their hands.
Most Christian ideas about hell are from Dante and Milton laundered through loony toons. And in Milton's version, Satan is the protagonist.
I had to explain to someone here on Lemmy that Satan in Job is a rival god, rather than the Satan Christians think, of since it came from before Judaism was monotheistic. The word literally just means 'adversary.' Job is about two gods having a wager. But Christians (and the rest of the western world by extension) are ignorant of the fact that the largest role anyone called Satan has in the Bible has nothing to do with Christian mythology.
And then they decide to conflate the serpent in the Garden of Eden with Satan because reasons.
Edit: Note to self. Do not try to write longer posts with your phone.
And God was the one who never suggested equality but subservience for women.
I think I'll go with the prince of darkness .... HAIL SATAN!!
Obligatory HAIL SATAN
Remember to reapply your sataniser after each encounter with a cult member.
And history is usually written by the victor; so how do we know that God is the actual good guy, and not just the asshole who won and told everyone how cool he is and how shit the other guy was? I mean, God's done some pretty fucked up shit and he's killed more people than Satan ever did.
I’ve been saying this for a decade+
If I was evil, I would write a book saying how good I am and trying to indoctrinate myself into people.
Satan is most likely the good guy who rejected his racist, facist father.
A church has no right to tell me how to treat others when it's named after a sex position.
As a member of the "church of the subgenius", I'm curious about that position.
Good guy Lucifer. Punishes evildoers for all eternity, but somehow he's the bad guy.
Christianity is a cult and a scam.
Sometimes even good people fall for it. The good ones have enough reason to be loud and shut the bad ones up. But that not going to happen. It’s a toxic support system that they can’t go against or be kicked out.
Christianity needs to disbanded just like every cult denying reality and hurting others.
Yikes, talking about hitting AND completely missing the point
Of course it's a Baptist church with a sign like that. Guarantee you it's in a sundown town, too.
I don't understand if that sign is pro or against Satan
If you worship a cosmic tyrant don't be upset if some people balk at the idea.
Damn right 😎
Don't judge an entire group by the loud assholes they have within when the good ones have no reason to be loud.
Yeah, judge them by their (in)actions and how they treat others.
.....huh, still not super great on the whole. One of the many reasons I left the church...
Yeah I'm sorry, but when I know you're religious, any religion, I'll think less of you. I won't treat you any different, hell, I will go out of my way to try and show respect for your dumbass skydaddy beliefs, but yeah, I'll think less of you because frankly, you are. You're stuck with the mindset of a 5 year old
It's funny because when I know that someone judges someone else over personally held beliefs so intensely that they think less of them, I tend to think less of that first person. We all live lives differently. If they're not impacting yours, who cares? If they believe in something you don't, who cares?
You talk about being stuck with the mindset of a 5 year old for believing in something in their own lives. But real adults just live their lives and don't run around judging by their own personal metrics. Real adults also certainly don't care when someone runs around saying "YOU'RE A CHILD".
And yeah, I'm not sorry for that one.
I think this conversation is way more black and white than it needs to be.
You can love and respect someone while thinking that that one belief is really stupid. In fact shockingly stupid. (Not saying religion is shockingly stupid)
I am sure, your best friend once said something or did something that you judged them for negatively. Made you think less of them. While loving them as a whole.
Well said.
Christians are fucking ghouls.
Eh. Depends on the Christian. Same with every group of people, you're always gonna have a mixed bag of people who are good, people who are bad and people who are just existing. The bad ones are just louder.
Edit: It is genuinely concerning how so many of you are so willing to use blatantly bigoted lines of thought to hate a group. How you're defending blatant discrimination and bigotry. It is funny. You complain about Christians as a group being ghouls while failing to recognize that you're in the same camp. You're doing the same thing they are. You are just as bad as the thing you're complaining about but you don't have an excuse to try and fall back on. You aren't doing it because you misunderstood a book. You're doing it because you're hateful little bigots.
You're embarassments. Children screaming into the night about other Children. Grow the fuck up, the both of you.
Have never met one that wasn't truly awful! But maybe that's just Texas.
Also depends if you meet just one Christian and have an honest respectful conversation.
Or a mob of Christians trying to out-Christian one another
I do agree that not all Christians are inherently bad people, but I would be lying if I said I don't lose respect for anyone who can follow and worship such an awful and evil being as the Christian god.
It's ok to be wrong.