Critics decry Vietnam’s ‘draconian’ new internet law
Critics decry Vietnam’s ‘draconian’ new internet law
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Critics decry Vietnam’s ‘draconian’ new internet law
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i think this is a great idea, no more bots
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Well, what did you expect from a communist dictatorship?
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Is this satire?
If not, who would you say is the dictator of Vietnam?
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Dictatorship doesn't imply that there's only a single ruler.
That said the situation, as in the power of the Politburo, isn't as extreme as it was in the USSR or in Vietnam before 1988. But they still have ways to go before they're at Cuban levels of "wait we'll have to take a closer look they might actually have come up with a form of democracy constitutionally different from the usual ones". Cuba is still authoritarian but that seems to be more cultural inertia than tankie ideology. Singapore might actually be a good comparison, not economically but politically.
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It has a government? Then it's not communist
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Technically correct, which is the most tone-deaf kind of correct.
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Oh yes, the capitalist country with the capitalist flag all over and a capitalist party, wait... That aint right...
Thx for the easy copy/paste @MTK@lemmy.world
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What exactly do you think communism is?
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Communist is an adjective, and it's right there in their name:
Under the constitution, the Communist Party of Vietnam (CPV) asserts their role in all branches of the country's politics and society.
While the country may not be strictly communist, the adjective is absolutely appropriate to describe its ruling party, which is the only party allowed and therefore it's valid to refer to the entire government by that adjective.
You're just being obtuse...
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Wait, how is it draconian to stand by your words? This will make it hard to use botnets to kickstart colour revolutions, makes people accountable for their words and sure as shit won't stop dissidents from complaining. We've had whistle-blowers and dissidents before social media. How is this law bad? Now companies like google and Facebook can't inflate their numbers? Oh no, the horror.
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You're saying that almost as if you tried to imply that colour revolutions are a bad thing.
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If only the US and EU had this to suppress the "Far Right". Democracy would be protected.
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That's not how it works.
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The US is very far right though. In the US something like this will be used to punish women seeking abortions.
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All this would do is turn the far right into a slightly more hidden far right.
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No, it would make it more explicitly far right. It turns out being able to identify users on also platforms is useful to silence dissent.
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Countries don't do this to oppress their people, they do it because they've seen the Internet used to influence right wing extremists by foreign actors.
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They do this because they can and because people let them. Every government wants as much control as possible over everything, web being the (relatively) newest target. It’s on us to oppose that.
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Umm, wtf?
By definition, this law is authoritarian in its very nature. Far right wing extremism at it's finest. But only to protect the people from...far right wing extremism???
Umm, sure, if you say so dude. Or, wait a minute, no, you're completely off your rocker. Like, what the fuck...
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While you raise a good point for a potential reason I can't imagine having this much faith in a government, where does the optimism stem from?
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Not everyone lives in America. Most governments in the world are not just fronts for oligarchs. I trust the current government of my country to act in the better interests of the people most of the time (sadly we live in a capitalist dystopia, so sometimes lobbying can make politicians fuck up). If you don't trust yours, you should look into what you can do to make a change.
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"If anyone is going to oppress our people it's us"
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Sure, chief. Whatever you have to tell yourself.
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Yes because as we all know there's a shortage of right wing dipshits who don't hide their identities.
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Don't even try to reason with people here that governments should be responsible for blocking harmful agents to affect the population. Government control and communism are bad words here, it's obviously much better to be free to spread misinformation and foreign propaganda, and if you can't have such freedom, you're obviously being oppressed by the government. I wish my ""free"" country had done the same ~10 years ago when social media truly became mainstream, and maybe we wouldn't have suffered a coup d'état that was clearly in the best interests of other nations.
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US ex-pats won't like this. Vietnam is a favorite country to emigrate to. You can't apply for permanent residency but there's almost no limit on temporary visas. I think they just require you to leave the country for like 90 days every two or three years.