9mo ago

Voters in California and Nevada consider ban on forced labor aimed at protecting prisoners

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California and Nevada finally contemplate an end to slavery
- Looking forward to when GEO Group v. State of California reaches an outrageously corrupt SCOTUS.
  
  GEO Group v. State of California
  Context. In case you hadn't heard of this like me.
- Bet it gets veto. They just made homelessness illegal so they about to fill shit ton of for profit prisons.
  
  Its a proposition so they cant veto it without another proposition.
It is sad that this will cause a legitimate argument about the constitution.
- "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. "
  Unfortunately I think you're right, the way the thirteenth amendment is written might make laws like this unconstitutional. What we really need is another amendment banning it entirely.
  
  Why would it be unconstitutional? The amendment doesn't require forced labor, it just allows it. States deciding to nix it as a "punishment" are fully in their rights.
  
  I see zero reason why this would make state laws about it unconstitutional. The constitution does not say it is mandatory for prison slave labor to exist, just that it could
  The US constitution not prohibiting something doesn't mean a law or a state constitution can't
  
  How?? The language just makes something illegal. It's not like the one that forced alcohol to be legal.
  
  Honestly, we'd do better with an Article 5 constitution convention.
  The constitution was never meant to be something that was interpreted from the lens of when it was written. The Framers specifically made a way for states to rewrite the Constitution to adopt with the changing times.
  Edit: clarified my comment as it was a bit ambiguous
they enslaved people to move unknown bodies from “Negro Hill Cemetery?”? The fuck..?
That's good. Prison Labour is modern slavery
- It's still legal to have punitive slavery. There is a carve out in the amendment. It is repugnant. We need a 28th amendment declaring an end to all slavery.
While at it, ban profits from prisons.
Yes, please.
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