Not Even Republican Voters Like Republican Health Care Ideas: Poll

But they'll still vote Republican

To "own the libs" whatever that means.
- I'm increasingly convinced they mean it literally, in the classical sense.
- To "own the libs" whatever that means.
  Who remembers when Gavin McInnes, at the time the leader of the Proud Boys, put a butt plug in his rectum "to own the libs"?
  I remember:
  White Nationalist Gavin McInnes Plugs Himself – “To Own The Libs”
  For all their hatred of marginalized groups and especially in consideration of all the vicious transphobic and homophobic attacks by its founder, Gavin McInnes, I’m still trying to figure out how he so readily, and more importantly – easily slid a big black dildo up his own a**, live on his internet talk show? McInnes deemed the moment as “owning the libs.”
  See Gavin’s uncensored homo-erotic madness here.
Nobody votes against their own interests like fascists.
- Well that is because they are not going to be treated like other people. They are going to have an special identification that will prevent them being treated just like the rest. /s

Let me die in an emergency room with a treatable disease, like an American.

The problem is many Republicans believe the exact opposite. The moment you bring up any form of socialized healthcare they will start rattling off stories of people in Europe having to go to a different country to get treatment. Many citizens of the USA have been conditioned to believe that paying for health insurance gives them priority care compared to an uninsured person and if everyone was the same then they'd lose that priority status. They think that if everyone can get healthcare then they'll die in a waiting room, and there is no evidence to support that our hospitals will not be able to keep up.
- Also, countries with socialized healthcare usually also have private health care. But since they have to compete with the public option their prizes are fairly reasonable.
  And that's not socialism, it's capitalism.
- They think that if everyone can get healthcare then they’ll die in a waiting room, and there is no evidence to support that our hospitals will not be able to keep up.
  All of the evidence points to the opposite!
  The examples they love to give are lies or systems after being defunded by conservatives.
- In reality: We pay extra for ourselves and our doctors to wade through a parade of forms that insurance companies will use to deny care for mostly technical reasons.
- They think that if everyone can get healthcare then they'll die in a waiting room, and there is no evidence to support that our hospitals will not be able to keep up.
  The only time our hospitals weren't able to keep up is when conservatives refused to wear a mask during a global pandemic.
- Cant keep up?
  Idk why the hell late night ER visits (11pm) take fucking HOURS to get seen if you don't have a life threatening emergency. You could still be in serious pain for hours.
  I'm next to the main entrance. No ambulance has dropped off someone for you to drop everything to treat.
30 Rock, applicable as always. That reminds me, it's getting on time for my 50th rewatch haha.

Did I miss something? What Republican plan? I've always heard that it's Two Weeks™ away from being released.

Oh it’s dying of cancer your job gave you because chemo got you fired so now you can’t afford it even if you get a new job because it’s a pre existing condition
The concepts of a plan like a vauge idea to scrap all the good parts and replace them with nothing. Vance has talked about removing pre-existing condition protections for instance
Project 2025. But when only the Nazi freaks liked it the Republicans have had to backtrack and pretend like that was never the plan.

They have no ideas other than ending things.

Well they need to get the idea to end the Republican party
- LOL

The Affordable Care Act was based on the conservative plan for healthcare as a compromise. So they don't have anything. A real progressive plan would be single payer

This. Also it passed without Republican support so a few shitty Dems are really to blame for what we got. And Kamala isn't going to go after it either. I know quite a few people who vote R for gun rights but want single payer healthcare. Both parties are very different, they suck in different ways and represent moneyed interests, not the people.
- Mostly Joe Lieberman if I remember correctly made it his mission to remove a single payer option. It's hard to change the status quo and I think raising the minimum wage and making single payer health care will do a lot to build to help America and would be a winning Democratic strategy. I doubt it will happen but a man can dream.
  Also I can't with single issue voters around gun rights.

Republican voters like none of their policies except for the racism and bigotry. But sadly that seems to be enough for them

Given that immigration is the big Republican issue, yeah.
- And now you know why

They will still vote R because mass deportation of colored people sounds better than republican voters getting healthcare

Fucking idiots will step on your foot and shoot a hole in their own foot just to shoot you.

They have a concept of a plan

Won’t change any votes so everyone who is a reasonable human needs to vote blue.

For a long time now Republicans will come up with decent solutions but are unwilling to commit to them because they would no longer have the grievances they need to drive their voters.

The Democratic party picks these ideas up and then passes them as law. This has caused the Republican party to become increasingly desperate for new grievances hence the whole trans thing.

To put it another way the Democratic party became conservative in their policies and the Republicans went batshit crazy because of it.

This is an example of why I think it's important to distinguish between politicians and voters when saying *Republicans want X." Because what they want or believe are often at odds. It would help if we could convince the voters of that.

Politicians are the elected representatives of the voters. If the politicians want something their voters don’t then why are they being elected.
- Are you serious? Because they lie. And because they demonize the other side so hard, their base will vote for them no matter what. For example, polling shows most republican voters are not in favor of extreme abortion restrictions. They want abortion up to a certain point and for certain reasons. But when they're told the other side is murdering full-norn babies, they go for what seems to them like the lesser evil.

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