Trump rally: Witness says he saw gunman minutes before shots fired

I’m sorry that guy was at a shooting but a visor with Trump 20204 might be the most loser-coded thing I’ve ever seen. If you hold that visor up to your ear like a seashell, you can hear someone complaining about a family court judge ruling against him after he represented himself.

Allow me to blow your mind. That’s not his real hair, it’s a hat that looks like a visor + Trump’s rug. Watch the video and it becomes clear.
- How did it get worse?
  Howwww?
- In case anyone was wondering where that kid in your class who huffed glue is doing these days.
- I was wondering why they were so worried about his hat. Seemed weird.
With a beer in hand 👌
- Well where else are you supposed to keep it?

Maybe I’m crazy here but if I saw a dude with a rifle on a roof at a political rally I would 100% assume it was secret service. I don’t see much here that convinces me otherwise

Edit: there is some evidence that he may have been on a roof. It’s hard to get accurate information this soon after an incident so we’ll see in the coming days

Edit: yeah, pretty much confirmed it was the gunman, assuming this guy is talking about the right roof (secret service were on a different roof). I still stand by my original comment, I wouldn’t have thought anything of it if I saw it

If they were in legit gear or a suit, I wouldn't think it was odd. Any other guy with a rifle would be a red fucking flag because plainclothes USSS have concealed guns and don't play on roofs.
- I kind of doubt someone could have told what outfit the gunmen was wearing in that scenario.
- Isn’t the point to blend in and not bring attention to yourself thouth?
And if you saw him getting into position mid speech that wouldn't strike you as odd? The shooter was seen low crawling into position. Secret Service shooters would be in place from the start not moving mid speech.
- They're Trump supporters, their brain power is not what brought them to the rally.
Yeah, I think that that's been normal for a long time. There are even pictures of the law enforcement on a rooftop at this rally with scoped rifles.
EDIT: One of the top posts on Reddit says that this is the shooter after having been shot. Assuming that is correct, gives an idea as to what he was wearing.
https://i.redd.it/4jm18y33gdcd1.jpeg
That kind of uncertainty about if the shooter was part of the security detail or not may have been the source of hesitation that let him get shots off before immediately getting shot himself. The speed of the return fire makes it seem like someone was already pointing a gun at him and awaiting confirmation he wasn't supposed to be there.
- That’s an interesting point. I’m sure they know where the others are but I’m sure there’s always a doubt

Yeah, I'm gonna probably stay undecided on this one. On the one hand, "the libs shot first" is going to sit very well with his cult's persecution complex, and it'll be a good tool for whenever he needs an angry mob. On the other hand, it wouldn't be very surprising that someone really would take a shot at him.
- I don't think a fake assassination attempt makes much sense at all. He's not losing to the point that he needs to take a big risk. It's not close enough to the election for one big stunt to have a good chance of influencing the outcome. And it didn't even happen at a time and place that would maximize the visibility.
  The only thing I can think of that could explain this would be the recent trending of project 2025. But even then, if you need a distraction, the convention is next week, there's plenty of opportunity to shift the narrative there. And hell, if you want to stage an assassination attempt for your own benefit, that's the venue to do it at.
  On the other hand, faking it requires conspirators who can make it happen, all of whom have to be able to keep it quiet. There will be an investigation that he can't control. The smaller the conspiracy, the harder it is to pull off, but the larger the conspiracy, the harder it is to cover up. And unlike all his existing criminal cases, there would be no connection to his time as president in any way, so the immunity he just got handed by the supreme court wouldn't apply. And obviously the shooter has to not accidentally kill Trump while he is shooting at him and killing an innocent bystander. Plus, you have to have a shooter willing to die for the cause, or a patsy who can plausibly take his place, which raises so many more questions and carries a whole new set of risks.
  By comparison, someone looking at Trump and saying to himself "Well, if no one else is going to do this, I guess I will" is just a lot more plausible.
- The shooter was identified as 20-year old Thomas Matthew Crooks, as reported by the BBC, and was a registered Republican.

Guess it was too much to expect a book depository to be near a GOP rally.

If true, a lot of heads are going to roll. That's a shocking lapse in security.

- By security I meant Secret Service. I believe ex-presidents get a secret service detail.
- Thing is he doesn't have to pay anything for security, secret service is paid by the government.

This interview is nuts.

Not technically.
You do understand that Trump being assassinated would end far worse than him getting elected, right? Trump turned his head and America dodged a bullet.
- No way, a Trump presidency will be way worse.
- Thankfully there's still hope that Trump will die in prison.

Video of him on the roof just before everything went down (video blurs out the shooter during/after death):

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1812339055603978440

You can hear people yelling, "He's got a gun!" seconds before the shooting happens.

Another angle of people yelling "He's got a gun" (shaky cameraman, good for audio only): https://x.com/BNONews/status/1812327502028669328

Another witness that was also trying to point out the shooter to the authorities: https://x.com/BNONews/status/1812311392675914015

Pretty embarrassing for the secret service. This plus all their other fuckups and shenanigans these past 12 years should lead to some serious reforms.

This guy has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. Any armed security worth their salt would have snipers on roofs at large gatherings. I see them at sporting events, why not at a rally?

The man with a rifle he saw was almost certainly working with Trump's security detail, and if not, he would have been spotted not long after this guy saw him, and taken out before he could have taken a shot.

There's video footage of the shooter dead on a roof.
- I admit I was wrong.
  And I think the secret service detail assigned to Trump might be terrible at their job.
- Where?
Any armed security worth their salt would have snipers on roofs at large gatherings.
They did have them here; there are photos of them. The assassin was also apparently on another roof; I linked to what is a purported picture of his body on the roof off Reddit in my comment above.