Barron Trump to step into the political arena as a Florida delegate at the Republican convention

Not that I don't agree with the general sentiment, or want to condone slave-owning in any way, but Thomas Jefferson only had children with one of his slaves, and from the historical record it appears to have been a consensual romantic relationship, insofar as one can have one with such a vast power difference (you cannot, really). He did oppose slavery privately, however he owned slaves, himself. Although, again from the record, it appears that they were more a part of his household, and treated (relatively) well, rather than how we typically imagine slaves in the South. Again, still not right, but compared to his contemporaries, you would call Jefferson a good owner. Still fucked up to say. A further disappointing fact is that, despite the fact that he deemed slavery reprehensible, he also deemed it to be political suicide to try to change the status quo. He brought the issue up a few times during his very long political career, but quickly abandoned the efforts. Additionally troubling is that, like many other in opposition to slavery at the time, he thought the solution was to ship black people to an island in the Caribbean so that they could form their own nation. This was not an uncommon opinion during that era -- I believe even Lincoln bought into this "solution," at one point. Also fucked up, but somehow better than the at-the-time alternative of continuing slavery.

Anyways, I don't mean to undermine your point that many of the individuals who established this country did so with the idea that black and brown people, women, and the lower-class, were less-than, and established it in such a way that made it difficult or impossible for them to participate. However, I think your specific examples aren't super accurate, and since I just read a pretty fair biography of Jefferson recently called Jefferson: Architect of American Liberty by John B Boles, I figured I would chime in. Really interesting and very much puts a great (in terms of historical stature) and flawed (in terms of our modern sense of morals) man in the context of his time and place.

Many of them owned slaves and had zero issues with slave ownership.

Three of the seven Founding Fathers were slave-owners.

One was restricted by law from freeing them due to the massive debts he ran up funding the Revolution (Washington) but came to believe that slavery was an unambiguous evil by the end of his life, making plans to free his slaves lawfully (which is a bit of a dick move considering the state of the law at the time, but 'we are creatures of habit, not originality').

One was a dickhead, but one who thought slavery was bad and should die out (Jefferson).

Only one was an unrepentant slaver (Madison).

The other four were staunch abolitionists.

This land was populated by people who “escaped” Europe because of “religious persecution” which actually meant Europe was getting all progressive and deeply philosophical so you couldn’t just shove your bullshit religion down other people’s throats anymore with impunity.

That was true for the Puritans who founded Mass and Connecticut. But for most of what would become the US, the exact opposite was the truth. Europe quite explicitly was NOT progressive and deeply philosophical about religion at the time - the Puritans on the Mayflower were fleeing, specifically, the Netherlands, which was a rare bastion of religious tolerance in Europe. Maryland was founded as a refuge for Catholics where all Trinitarians would have equal rights - far more radical than most of Europe. Pennsylvania was explicitly founded on religious tolerance by a Quaker. Rhode Island instituted freedom for non-Trinitarian Christians in the 17th century. European Jews fled to New York (after it was no longer New Amsterdam) specifically BECAUSE it was more tolerant than Europe. New Jersey, North Carolina, and South Carolina were religiously diverse from the outset.

Most of the Founding Fathers were deists or highly deist influenced, and all believed in freedom of religion.

Hagiography of the early days of America is dumb. But demonization doesn't provide a clear view simply by being the reverse.

While I agree, I also see the other guys POV...the Founding Fathers wanting to break from kings and royal lines, while Trump&Fam look like their doing their best to start a royal family of America (I'll be damned before that ever happens)

I think another important consideration is that the founding fathers were no more unified than today's political leaders. We talk about how divisive the tone of discourse has become, but those old guys knew how to sling mud. They had intense disagreements about how to build the country, and no single design or designer had enough influence to get exactly what he wanted. When people start a sentence like "The founding fathers never wanted..." some probably did. They imagined all kinds of scenarios and eventualities. Some of them were fascists, some of them were abolitionists, some of them were hedonists, some of them were religious zealots. There weren't many issues where all of the founders were of one mind, if any existed.

Agreed. Orange is a terrible color on Trump.

I believe Tiffany fits that description

Like zero percent chance of this happening, but imagine the hilarity if he used this platform to just absolutely wreck the proven pieces of shit that make up the rest of his family

If he runs as a republican I doubt he'll be any better. Anyone with half a brain and no eyes can see what they actually stand for. Also, now that he's of age and willingly stepping into the spotlight he's fair game to shit on.

You should try it, I've found that shitty people tend to have shitty parents. There must be a connection.

That's lovely to hear! Given that he's an adult making his own decisions I think that is lost at this point, we just now have a new cunt yielded from the cycle. But, yeah, typically.