What are your thoughts on the latest news about UFO sightings?
What are your thoughts on the latest news about UFO sightings?
What are your thoughts on the latest news about UFO sightings?
All this talk of national security is eerily familiar… They actually did the same after 9/11. I think they are just trying to get more military funding for a war against aliens that never comes, and drum up fear so they can take away even more rights from the people, all in the name of “national security”.
Until the dude making all of these claims presents actual proof I don't believe a word of it. So far all he has is hearsay, he can't identify the people who told him things, the few people who he did identify haven't come forward to my knowledge, and all of the documents he claims to have are top secret and not releasable to the public.
When you're making a claim as big as "aliens are here and the government has their ships and some bodies from them and is also covering it up," you need to provide more evidence than "I know because multiple people have told me but I'm not allowed to say who, also ive never seen them, and I have documents to prove it but you can't see them because the government says so."
The same I thought of the last UFO sightings before those.
Yup. Show me the actual UFO and I'll pay attention.
Also, nearly everyone has at least a 1080p/4K camera on them at all times these days, so why can't anybody seem to produce clear video of one?
I agree with you wrt a UFO. However, yes, people have 1080p on a cellphone, but unless the UFO is about 15-30 feet in front of you, the longer lenses on cellphones are mixed quality at best still. So if someone is pointing a recent "100x" phone at a UFO in the sky, the footage still isn't going to be very clear / good. It's also difficult to track these "UFOs", probably because of all sorts of interesting optical and atmospheric events even making them unidentified. But even trying to "zoom in" on a commercial plane from miles away to the extent you could make out much detail is not exactly easy, and there it's usually going in a at least in theory predictable flight path, and moving "slowly" - just the distance giving such a tiny FOV from the camera ...
Most people don't have phones that can record in infrared and when all they've shown us is FLIR images well that might be a problem with your "everybody has a 4k camera" theory
Every UFO "sighting" throughout human history has amounted to absolutely nothing, so I have the same expectations here
About the same as I feel about Jesus toast. The proof is dubious, and until I see better, my default opinion is one of skepticism.
What "news"
Since 2015 they keep repeating the same shit in the news about the exact same navy shit with literally every article having the same fucking FLIR image of a tic tac thing but there has literally at no point been any new information for the last 7 fuckdamn years straight. It's been wild watching the same story get news play every few months for 7 ffucking years
So anyway what new information is there? Are there new images? Did they ever reveal literally anything about the supposed recovered materials Luis Elizondo and others claim to have had access to? Or is it more of the same old shit, AGAIN?
Recent developments have confirmed a huge number of completely unrelated whacked/fascist CT as the flock looks at one possibly real wolf and decides therefore all the wolf hallucinations are real.
I believe in aliens even less now that the us govt says theyre real
Why would aliens come here?
'cause we gots beans!
I ask myself the same question all the time. So you supposedly have this super advanced space-travelling civilization, and they're somehow interested in us, who aren't even able to colonize another planet yet, and are destroying our only one planet in the meantime. We're like monkeys in a zoo to them. Why should we be interesting for a much more advanced civilization? At best, they'd monitor our "progress" as a civilization from afar, and maybe make contact once we've become a Kardashev type 2 or 3 civilization. If or when that happens. Still a long way. We haven't even ensured that our home planet is safe from us. Or maybe they want specific resources from Earth. But then we'd get much more visitors, who also wouldn't be friendly I guess. So I think it's highly unlikely, which means I also think this is being staged, intended to gain more funding.
We're like monkeys in a zoo to them
People love seeing monkeys in the zoo, the closer the better! I think if we could travel to other planets to check out other life forms we would do it all the time. I don't believe aliens have come here, but if they exist and could come see us they would totally do it for the same reasons we would want to go see them. Makes sense to me!
You realise we do keep animals in zoos?
For the same reasons we would visit them, for cultural exchange or to steal their resources in the case of the US empire.
I appreciate the stab at the US empire, but if I may be serious for a moment: It makes no sense to come here to steal our shit when there's countless stars and planets in the universe. I don't even think it makes the least bit of sense for humans to ever go to Mars and mine minerals there, given the logistics involved. Any alien smart enough to come here is going to be smart enough to realize that going to the pub is way easier and more fun.
To see you bro.
Cynical take: To kill us. Dark forest style. Send out automated drones and kill off all other life that could pose a threat.
Other thoughts: If aliens showed up it we wouldn't detect them in atmo, not as a quick fly by. We'd detect something huge like engines or something going real fast way out in space. Like on the edge of the system. If they were in our atmosphere they would make themselves known one way or another at that point.
Cynical take: To kill us. Dark forest style.
As a sci-fi explanation for the Fermi Paradox, I found Dark Forest Theory compelling and thrilling.
As an actual IRL explanation for a lack of First Contact, I'm totally underwhelmed. Space is big. The speed of light heavily truncates both travel and communication. Extraterrestrial life certainly isn't common, as evidenced by all of the planets in our own Solar System that are lifeless.
It should be noted that
::: spoiler spoiler
across three different books, the humans and tri-solarians never actually meet. The whole build-up is ultimately a bust, as both humans and aliens end up fleeing Dark Forest attacks by other alien races who have only just barely noticed their presence and attack on reflex. Fun dramatic twist, but it really banks on everyone being invested in outcomes that are hundreds of generations into the future.
:::
That strikes me as highly implausible.
Other thoughts: If aliens showed up it we wouldn't detect them in atmo, not as a quick fly by. We'd detect something huge like engines or something going real fast way out in space. Like on the edge of the system. If they were in our atmosphere they would make themselves known one way or another at that point.
The sheer amount of energy for super-luminal travel would suggest we either can't see them or can't miss them.
But one posits a degree of technological advancement so beyond our current scope that we can barely conceive of it. And the other posits a kind-of soft ceiling to scientific advancement, such that alien life just can't be an issue even in another thousand lifetimes.
If first contact is anything, it will more likely be communicative than a literal fly by. Humans tuning into the extraterrestrial equivalent of AM radio will be the first to discover an advanced off-world civilization.
Going back to 3Body, one of the most compelling plot beats for me was ::: spoiler spoiler when the Tri-solarians started producing daytime drama TV shows about star-crossed lovers communing across a great distance, in order to influence humans into sympathizing with the refugee colony ships they intended to send Earthward. :::
Like, that's what I imagine a real human/alien interaction would look like for... centuries. Long before either saw the other one face-to-face.
Who said they're aliens?
Not sure which UFO sightings are you referring to, but UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object. It means that something was flying but they couldn't identify what it was, it doesn't mean aliens.
That's a bit pedantic. The term is commonly understood to be aliens, and modern usage is pretty much always aliens. UAP is used instead for the more literal meaning.
It's not really pedantic. If the air force is using the term "UFO", they're referring to the technical definition. Means, flying things without known radar or visual references. The problem is when mass media relays the message, they deliberately muddle the definition because it's good for ratings.
I don't think there's an actual government conspiracy regarding the ufo hearings, but a simple media conspiracy for ratings. I might be wrong, but that's the simplest explanation for what's going on at the moment.
Somebody post the wkuk press conference sketch
This should be an emoji.
It is just propaganda
CIA planning docs show that when they overthrew the Guatemalan president in 1954, they plotted planting "flying saucer" stories to distract the media.
Another declassified study shows the Air Force misled the public in the 1950s about UFOs to conceal the CIA's spy plane testing.
Just something to think about...
Bullshit
I still believe in aliens more than the American government.
I totally heard my buddies talking about UFOs. They saw them, trust me bro. I cant show you any evidence though, just trust me bro. It is such an obvious attention grab by a man who's brain has suffered from PTSD
We don't hear about them anymore, therefore the aliens have given up on researching or invading or infiltrating the hooooman planet.
Kind of similar to how Jewish theology explains how in the mythical past god was appearing as a burning bush and talking a lot, but now (like for the last 2500 years) god is mute.
Ambivalent?
Check this and other vids by Dr Steven Greer. I believe there are too many credible ppl coming forward for it all to be just smoke: https://youtu.be/1GnGGCaC6P4?si=Ug0gSRDmwpHQEylF
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Irrelevant
It's bullshit. But not because aliens don't exist, I believe they do. But this media publicity is clearly meant to be the buildup for some large fake alien threat.
9/11 was the most recent event that allowed the powers that be to grab massive amounts of power. Will the next be a fake alien threat? I don't know. Maybe.
Not a single shred of physical evidence has been presented for any of the 'sightings'. Basic photography and physics explain the new videos. Just lens flare, bokeh effect, parallax motion, etc. Nothing extraterrestrial, just your average unintelligent American pilot.
"What can be told without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"
Until they back their claims with evidence open to the scientific community and press, that's just smokescreen and diversion. The are more important things to care about right now.
Thing is, these days they can fake just about any so called evidence so I don't trust anything they say,
That's why I told about scientific community and press, it's kinda their jobs to find lies.
Life without trusting anything/anyone seems hard to live.