Nothing Can Stop a Biden-Trump Rematch, How did the country end up with a choice that most of its voters don't want?
This Is Really Happening
The system is set up deliberately to prevent doing what the voters want.
And this isn’t some conspiracy theory. Read the Federalist Papers and you’ll find they didn’t want an unruly mob making decisions. Hence why senators were picked by states originally, and why there’s an electoral college instead of popular vote for president.
And it's high time all this was fixed. Just because some dudes 250 years ago thought a system of government was good, doesn't mean it's still adequate today.
Biden because no party is going to deny a sitting President the opportunity to run again. It has to be their choice to not run (Johnson, '68).
Trump because enough Republicans still believe 2020 was "stolen" from him.
"66% of caucusgoers think Biden did not legitimately win the 2020 election, and 68% of those voters are backing Trump. Just 16% of those voters are picking DeSantis while an even smaller 6% share are caucusing for Haley."
New Hampshire:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/23/new-hampshire-voters-trump-trials-2020-election/
"About half of those who voted in the New Hampshire Republican primary Tuesday believed the false claim that President Biden did not legitimately win the 2020 presidential election, according to preliminary exit polls, underscoring the persistence of Trump’s false claims within the GOP that the last presidential election was stolen from him.
Of those voters who believed Biden did not legitimately win the 2020 election, an overwhelming majority — nearly 9 in 10 — voted for Trump in the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday, while about 1 in 8 voted for former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, the only remaining major challenger to Trump for the Republican presidential nomination."
Imagine if Americans knew what ranked choice voting was and how it would benefit them.
If you aren't aware and half a minute and a half to spare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq7N2hmX9FI
I teach this in my high school classes when they vote on the rare movie days. It really hits them how much more fair it is.
Your mistake is thinking elections are, or ever were, about what the voters want.
In reality - the establishment decides how best to maintain their control, then create the illusion of choice (since both candidates who reach the point of running for president serve them, in very slightly different ways), then have the media bolster that illusion and get the public to fight with each other to make sure we don't stop to realise we're being played and point our justified rage and frustration where they actually belong (with the manipulators, not those they manipulate).
The media keeps reporting things that people engage with because those figures drive advertising. If people didn't engage with ragebait, then people like Trump wouldn't have a chance of being elected. The entire media strategy of any politician right now is to say or do the most wild shit possible so that they appear in the news. Come up with a 3 word slogan, and bam, instant support.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make in reference to my reply..
Yes, the media want money, but they can't make money without maintaining a system that has commodified everything, including information, for profit. The rage bait would exist whether trump would have won or not, it's not like it's gone anywhere. It doesn't exist to serve trump, it exists to serve the status quo (hint: having the president/PM change from one party to another, when both serve capitalism and the ruling class, isn't a change to the status quo).
biden is the nominee because it is historically political suicide for a party to primary their incumbent. and in this case since the other viable nominee is trump, primarying biden feels like small d democratic suicide for the country. smart people who don't like biden (for whatever reason, I include myself in that group) will get behind a biden candidacy enthusiastically just to. keep trump out.
trump is the nominee because the republican party as currently constructed is no longer a political party but a cult. a cult of white male grievances that not only seeks to opress anyone not white and male but also has adapted old testament principles where the only ones who had any status at all were males. and the thing is, trump doesn't believe in anything they do (except the racism and misogyny). he just accepts those people because they love him, he gives them permission to act as they do because he does. and the adolation from the people is the thing that drives narcissists. and the one thing those people want more than anything else is power for the sake of controlling other people. they want trump because trump wants their idolation and trump will give them everything just to be cheered. and yes I meant idolation.
if the people don't like this cycle's choices, they should have voted in their party's primaries. this year or 4 years ago.
if the people don't like this cycle's choices, they should have voted in their party's primaries. this year or 4 years ago.
That’s just it. You nailed it-
Everyone wants to whine and complain about whatever single-issue bullshit makes them look cool at work or school every four years, but almost never do what’s necessary to ensure said bullshit is kept to a minimum.
Dems don't listen to constituents. They pay us lip service. That's why I'm a Leftist. Dems are center-right (essentially what Nixon was).
Short answer: no proportional representation. Long answer: lack of proportional representation. If you are going to have voting, at least let people vote for the candidate they want rather than the least worst option.
Because a whole generation of Americans found a source of information that agrees with their dated belief systems. Regardless if they're completely wrong. Thanks Meta!
Unfortunately the Republicans actually late listening to their voters where Democrats are not.
Granted it's because Biden is an incumbent..
I assume you meant hate listening.
How does 70% of Dems wanting a ceasefire, and Biden refusing, translate to listening to voters? Voters wanted fundamental changes to police with defending, Biden's solution, more funding and cop cities in Atlanta and Baltimore, to be trained by IDF no less. The only people the DNC and the RNC listen to are the wealthy. The working class has no say, influence, or voice in politics.
Nah, sorry. I was on my phone.
Republicans are actually listening to their voters and picking the candidate they want to run. Granted, he's a shit candidate and shouldn't be allowed to run, but thats a different issue.
Biden wanted another term, so the DNC machine got on it and is pushing it down our throats despite the majority of dems not wanting it, because what are we gonna do? vote for trump? No, but they might have turn out problem circa 2016.
The thing is, though, I think most (or at least enough) voters actually do want this. Trump is clearly the preferred Republican candidate and that's been obvious for some time. On the Democrats side, Biden is the lead candidate and likewise, it has been obvious that he was likely to be it for months. Ergo, it's a Biden-Trump rematch.
Obviously nobody is happy about this, but it's hardly surprising.
Because most people do nothing but whine online about singe-issue problems and do nothing about bringing change in any real sense.
People want Trump for the same reason they hate Biden.
They are simply unwilling to admit what their candidate has done since Biden took office.
…by design
I didn't want Biden, but he's actually been doing fine; I was very surprised. List of accomplishments here, and overview of economic performance here.
Nowhere in that list did I see record oil production. Strange.
Only half the country sees that as an accomplishment
Careful, the Joe haters really don't want to listen right now with the current state of Gaza.