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  • For everyone confused about neopronouns I would like you to consider what we could and could not do about them.

    We could:

    1. Not respect them and let people bully neopronoun users
    2. Respect them and not let people bully neopronoun users

    Doesn't really matter if you want to use the pronouns or not, clearly respecting neopronouns is the only good way to deal with the situation unless you want to give people free reign to just talk down to, misgender, and harass a group of users.

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  • Sending this to my practical effects loving friends immediately

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  • No, just the way you phrased everything sounded off and weird. Like it's so very easy to not care about this issue and you show up and you cast doubt on people for no real reason, calling them disingenuous when you honestly you have no way to know. It was just such a tacked on and accusatory line.

    Like yeah these memes if you can even call them that are very specific to this person, but all we have to do is not care and move on.

    Imagine if drag is just a bit odd but being sincere, and they receive all these comments on every post about how drag are "fake" and a troll etc. What exactly are you contributing to then? Don't comment. Move on.

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  • People being annoyed does not justify people harassing someone. If someone thinks neopronouns are weird or annoying on the internet then just don't engage with them instead of commenting on it all the time.

    Edit: I remember not liking neopronouns as a kid and I never went out of my way to bother anyone about it. Also dragon rider doesn't force anyone to use drags pronouns, drag is fine with they/them

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  • All you have to do if you don't like or understand something is move on. You didn't need to come here and invalidate someones identity.

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    It just strikes me as a little disingenuous or odd.

    This just screams that you are being disingenuous yourself is what I mean.

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  • Dragon Rider is being accused of being a fake transgender person because people don't like drags pronouns. The meme implies the so-called trolls are just polite trans people, and that the person being offended by said trans people are simply transphobic, which they are.

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  • Fuck off transphobe

  • dang she's so right though how could I not see it before, after all right wing is when murder

  • literally by doing the same

  • Yeah! This could easily be the same fig split in two ! what a ripoff >:(

  • I additionally blame the attention economy aka social media algorithms that favor attention

    I mean this is also propaganda :P This is how the alt right are setting their hooks in people, by using the algorithms as they are to get boys and young men to listen to their little gurus etc. and slowly pull them right.

  • The mod also listed their own inactive community rather than the actually active trans communities for whatever reason. It's not a very good list of online spaces whatsoever

  • :/ How very ungenerous of them (not surprised)

  • Hexbear is a very toxic instance with mods that allow their users to harass others. Both hexbear and .ml are filled with tankie users and mods, which is another reason to avoid those places

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  • sounds like you have a lot to learn yourself

  • The soviet union and the CCP today famously committed a number of genocides, killed dissenters, and are one party states. You seem to think I mean liberal democracy when I say democracy. I mean democracy.

    Soviet Democracy by Priestland seems to disagree with you on how democratic the worplaces were. The power of the unions was greatly dialed back very quickly, with managers being reintroduced and the economy becoming more hierarchical as time went on.

    Incorrect. You are referring to cooperatives,

    Socialism being when the workers own the means of production is kinda essential, be it directly or indirectly. This is the basis on which I state that tankies are not socialists. I'm guessing you think that the workers indirectly own the means in the soviet union, or that the direct democracy you seem to think existed there for any meaningful amount of time counted (it did count, but again, only briefly).

    Anything you've said about china is just flat out wrong. The soviet union is certainly complicated, and much could be debated there, especially since the power of the unions fluctuated with time, but workers have literally zero power under the ccp.

    But we clearly disagree on reality, no further debate is necessary. Have a nice day I guess.

  • No actually. The Soviet Union was a union of national republics, hence the name.

    Ah, I misremembered. I thought soviet meant council as in a union.

  • I'm not going to spend too much time debating a tankie, but I think most of these regimes kinda by definition are not socialist given how little power the workers had. When unions are suppressed and the military and the dictatorship are essentially the same thing, how could they be socialist? Socialism requires that workers own their workplaces, that they run them. This was not the case in the soviet union nor is it the case in china today, where businesses are either organized by the state (like in the soviet union) or mixed (CCP). The state organizing businesses or whatever you want to call them would be fine if the people owned the state, but again these were/are dictatorships.

    The people don't control anything at all in your so called marxist states, and so therefore they are not marxist. Centralization is not something that I'm opposed to, but what does it matter how decentralized or centralized something is if it's not also democratically owned?

    I would probably call myself a marxist if tankies hadn't so thoroughly stained the term.

    Edit: I am also well aware that there were unions in the soviet union, hence the name. However they had little power, and mostly could only ever push for worker safety regulations.

  • Historically it has never worked out very well for the anarchists, so I would hope that they have learned their lesson by now