Just popped that Lenovo into my small business cart and got $1000 under what you've mentioned (assumed you went with upgraded screen, the 60hz 300nits screen is a piece of crap and shouldn't exist in a machine of that calibre), but even at that price the framework does seem more attractive.
No doubt if you take money out of the equation it's a good option, but if you're on a budget you could hunt down a similar specced Lenovo Legion or something for a bit less.
I deliberately ignored 11th gen, is old enough that refurbished equivalents can be bought for the same price on eBay with a case, power supply, ram, storage, wifi and OS licence for the same money.
With the framework board you get none of that.
And as for it being an option for embedded use, there are far better options.
I know this all sounds negative...
But I'm truly trying to like the idea.
I can't see it catching and reaching the mass needed to become more sustainable at this point.
It's just going to remain a niche untill they die... Or maybe they can survive on the small numbers? (Which I think would be great by the way, I'm very proud choice, just not a fan of the price!)
I do badly want to like these.. but I don't see the point.
Repairability wise mid range ThinkPad is nearly as good. Only major difference is I think Framework claims they will release schematics... and as someone who actually does component level repairs I've seen promises like this work I've or twice, but then they stop maintaining their data or pays get hard to get rendering the gesture null.
Upgrade wise... I switch machines every 4 to 6 years... at which point the chassis has a bit of wear and tear.
Spec wise I buy what I need and add a little headroom with the ThinkPad.
Spare parts are good for ThinkPad and Lenovo actually has component replacement guides that no one seems to mention or know about.
And when I do upgrade I appreciate having a complete spare machine.
I think it's also not unreasonable to assume my style of buying and upgrading is not uncommon.
This leaves the Framework very few hardware advantages and nil price advantages.
I still think they're a great idea, but I don't see any practical benefit over a sensible alternative.
You got profanity enabled?
It's an option not on by default.
Turn it on.... Or don't... See if I give a fuck.
I might not... Because I'm running pretty low on fucks to give.. and I don't really want to run out else I'll be fucked.
Google default keyboard with profanity enabled incase you have to fucking know.
I agree with everything you're saying, but it's frustrating that people are jumping to conclusions to think this is deliberate, nefarious etc..
Lemmy, being a federated system has different practical realities to Reddit.
You can't have a federated system with multiple instances each with their own admins, and have it function without cutting off data flow.
For voting to work in a federated system, vote data must flow, and people need to understand this.
Reddit was **not **a federated system, so there was no need for vote data to flow, and people also need to appreciate this difference.
The only solution is to remove voting.
It's as simple as that.
Maybe long term a system could be devised.
I'm not in denial, i do firmly believe that is is an issue, and that it WILL be abused by someone.
But I'm also a realist, and the features we have can't survive without voting data.
People need to be aware of this, i think it's fair that everyone knows the risks.
At an individual level people can choose not to vote, and thus have no vote data associated with them, but i suspect there might be more than vote data, i don't know for sure without looking at the code, but I suspect saved posts might be a privacy concern.
Personal opinion, i think abuse will happen, but it will be limited, just a feel i have.
I do however suspect this abuse will exponentially ramp up if lemmy gets big traction.
Gonna guess Libre ? I think it's French for freedom or something. CBF looking it up. I'm currently sleeping.