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  • Israel has absolutely no right to reject the two-state solution. I'm beginning to feel that Israel itself has no right to exist any longer. The only outcome that will ever work in any way, under any circumstances, is to allow Palestine to have it's own independence and its own territory. If Israel rejects that idea, we need to reject Israel and do our best to wipe them off the face of the earth for the good of the rest of mankind.

  • This insipid and cruel war against Palestine has got to end. I admit I wasn't particularly on anyone's side to start with, but now Israel has turned a singular day of violence into a bloodthirsty crusade of horror.

    More killing will not solve anything, and now that Gaza is a blasted wasteland, there can't be any winners at all. The love of killing other humans has got to stop - it just has to stop and we have to undertake psychological healing and promotion of peaceful ideals and quit inculcating young impressionable and easily coerced men with the idea that murder is ever justified for any reason.

  • Well you're right, I can't argue with you there. The pervasive sense of doomerism and love of gun violence that is our modern society has turned me very cynical about death. I don't think you can have it both ways - culture of violence and also being upset when violence happens. That was really just where I was coming from.

    Trust me no one is more pacifistic and in love with the idyll of a peaceful world than I am.

  • Actually to me I don't really see why people conflate being gay with gay culture - although I guess it's obvious that they would, it just doesn't always apply to most people. For me, anyway, being homo attracted means just that - it's just what my sexuality is, not what I do with my free time (I mean I don't seek out movies or books or beaches or bars that are gay, but that's just me).

    I have friends whose whole lives are built around their same-sex attraction, who dress flamboyantly and do the whole rainbow decor thing and always want to go do a gay-oriented thing when we go out. I'm fine with that, but it seems like those of us who just want to lead a very boring "not in your face" life don't get the same kind of respect.

    Anyway thanks for the feedback and responses. I think we're really on the same wavelength, maybe I could have worded my initial statement more clearly.

  • I agree. I feel that we can reduce those disparities if we have more open congress between us and the people we view as "others." At any rate, I don't think building high walls and putting up razor wire is ever going to be a good solution to anything going on in the world.

  • Right exactly - to me, having sexual preference (as a male) for other males, is just a "preference," not a lifestyle as you say. I mean I did have hetero sex up until my mid-20s, and then it all changed. So it's not like I don't find females attractive or have desires for them, but they aren't my primary "preference."

    And I like your definition of Lifestyle being a choice, while attraction isn't. I agree with that totally. But I think there is always some element of choice involved in deciding to live a certain way, as flamoyantly out of the closet, or in your face about being gay, or being closeted, or just being neutral...and much of the choice comes from how you honestly feel about yourself.

    I'm not a homophobe at all, I'm glad you could see that. I mean I'm gay but it's always been to me, a huge blessing and I've always tried to encourage others to see it that way. However - I am very open about discussing issues about gayness, and sometimes that comes across as being somehow anti-gay or not fully accepting. And I hope that is not how I come across.

  • No - well, maybe. I'm definitely an "overthinker" about everything. I did work with a human sexuality researcher for about eight years and found some interesting data and I did see a lot of research about gay vs. straight personalities. I guess I over think because, it's just who I am. So maybe yes. I've spend a long time considering what defines "gay" and what doesn't.....probably too much.

  • Well Canada is a great country also, I've been to all the provinces and I spent a couple weeks in Banff and one of the other national parks that I somehow got lost in and had fun finding my way around.

    I think Canada is much more independent and well developed than Mexico. My suggestion about Mexico was only in regard to their struggles to be as independent and gain some financial well being as a people.

    After all I'm merely making a hypothetical suggestion, and not saying it would be easy or could happen overnight. Frankly I'm just a "world without borders" kind of idiotic optimist. I think we make the immigration situation so much harder by denying people the right to even set foot in another country. I'm sure most Mexican nationals would prefer to stay in Mexico if they had the same economic opportunities (and could live without fear of the cartels).

  • Probably doesn't help at all. The truth is unpleasant, rarely very helpful. Do not look behind the curtains, and do not live without delusion because what humans really are is too horrible to contemplate and still be able to go on with your existence.

  • Unlikely that things will be done to me without my consent. You don't me very well. People have tried it and paid the price.

    Death is just the cracking of the shell that holds us down on earth, that's all. No one and no thing can coerce me into asking for forgiveness, especially where I've done nothing at all that requires me to ask it. They should all be on their grubby little hands and knees asking ME for forgiveness.

  • True - I'd not do very well on Naked on Afraid, I'd survive about one second if I had to go outside. The slightest breeze would send me into a spiraling calamitous downfall. If I saw a spider I'd die of apoplexy.

    I'd go into severe withdrawal and severe geriatric profranity disorder if I had to live without my video games and TV and electricity.

    Yes I'm the first to admit I'd not survive long on my own but I still dream of living by myself in a tropical (what else) paradise where food is plentiful and there just happens to be electricity enough to run a big screen TV and several video game systems. And by coincidence is right next to a Hostess bakery outlet.

    IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK OF LIFE???

  • Nope. No other animals except humans can be "gay." They often can be homosexual, however. Horses mount other male horses quite often and mules do also, and monkeys, chimps, dogs, ducks, geese, cats, etc all engage in homosexual behavior. It's as natural as breathing is.

    But the term "gay" denotes a whole lifestyle built around a homosexual preference, and only humans make their lives exclusively about their sexual preferences. And I am not saying that all humans do that either, some do but many don't.

    Some gay people make their whole lives about their homosexuality, and being "gay," but not every homosexual person does. For some of us, it's really just a sex preference, not a whole lifestyle, and that's also fine - to each his own. I'm just pointing out that other animals don't really have what can accurately be called "gay" lifestyles.

  • Though I agree there needs to be an independent Palestinian state - not sure where since Gaza is nothing but a blasted wasteland - there is actually no route to "lasting peace" in the middle East, anywhere. Humans have but one purpose, to look for reasons to hurt and kill each other.

    Give both sides what they want, and sure there'll be a reduction in warlike behavior for a little while. But eventually they'll find some other reason, some other difference, some other strip of land to battle over and it'll be just as ridiculous and genocidal as the current situation or even worse.