torrentialgrain @ torrentialgrain @lemm.ee

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You’re downvoted but you’re correct. Iranians hate their government (rightfully so, it’s a repressive religious extremist police state) and will hopefully use the chance of a weakened Khamenei to finally overthrow the mullahs.

Ikr

In the last 24 hours I had the pleasure of interacting with multiple users who are 100% sure Iran is stronger than Israel.

I don’t support Israel you absolute weirdo.

This website is collectively completely deluded. Every thread on this topic I see people (I’m assuming tankies and/or actual Hamas supporters) fantasizing about Iran destroying Israel with is… just laughable from an objective PoV.

I despise the Israeli government but regardless of my feelings towards them, their military is so much more advanced than Iran's, it’s not even comparable. And they have the backstop of a US carrier group, in case something does go wrong.

Unfortunately it’s all feelings and no facts on this website. Makes it really hard to actually engage with people.

You should look up what your dear leaders are doing to their people in Iran, friendo.

Are you retarded?

Buddy, nobody is saying Israel has no sway on US politics. I said the opposite in my initial post as well. But that’s doesn’t make them the puppet masters behind US policy. If you believe that, you’ve fallen for conspiratorial thinking, I’m sorry.

AIPAC - in part - consists of the exact people I was talking about above. And there’s much more to the story: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseupr/2025/02/07/the-politics-of-apocalypse-the-rise-of-american-evangelical-zionism/

If you really believe that then I have a bridge to sell you.

"USA unable to restrain their ally from doing exactly what they want“

Thanks, that’s terrifying.

I mean if you can’t see how comments like that sound like dogwhistles for Jewish world domination conspiracy theories then I can’t really help you.

It also has no basis in reality. The US is the master of Israel, not the other way around. If US withdraws their support, Israel would probably cease to exist (at least in its current form) in under a decade.

There are very influential evangelical circles in US government spanning generations that support a warmongering state of Israel because they believe it will bring on the rapture. But that’s not Israel controlling the US, just inbred American religious delusions.

Yeah what the fuck is this, it’s obvious to everyone that the US supports what Israel is doing.

One of the dumbest headlines I’ve read all year. The US administration is supporting all of this.

Not disputing the numbers but can you name a source?

So why did Iran shut the door to independent IAEA oversight if there’s nothing suspicious going on?

Not disputing the points you’re raising regarding Israel since they are obviously not to be trusted as well, but neither is Iran. I guess my "point" here is that there’s not really a good guy in this fight, both countries are run by religious extremist madmen.

Okay buddy 👍

Yeah, Israel is committing a genocide and Iran has pledged to destroy Israel for decades now. These things can both be true. If you aren’t interested in historic facts then we have no ground for a discussion.

Iran's rulers (you could also chose the word oppressors) have pledged to destroy Israel for more than four decades now. That is simply a fact.

See, for example: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/01/world/middleeast/iran-israel-hamas.html

Also the role their allies Hamas play in it. You’re doing the classic knee-jerk reaction of "Israel is bad, therefore Hamas and Iran must be good" which is, of course, really really stupid. I agree that Israel is bad, by the way, but your argument is bs nonetheless and historically uninformed.