And further alienate any actual people that might support them. They have to condemn political violence because it was an attack on their class, and their class solidarity overrides any political rivalry. But even my very liberal friend said "dang, it's too bad they missed." Idk what my Christian grandma feels about the shooting but when Trump got covid she did say he deserved it.
It's not an 'idea', there is hard data showing the numbers of people deported. Trump hates immigrants too though, I'm not saying either one is better or worse on immigration. How am I intending to post pro-Biden rhetoric? Biden is a genociding racist that should be charged with war crimes.
It is one of America's ideals to help people everywhere find a better life and live the 'American dream.' You don't support this patriotic ideal? Thousands of refugees from the endless global wars that the US helps initiate come to our borders to find salvation. I gladly pay taxes to help needy immigrants because that is supposedly one of the foundational elements of 'America'.
But we are ruled by the wealthy who trick average people to be mad at immigrants instead of wage theft, wealth redistribution, unchecked global atrocities and war crimes done in the name profit, Raytheon et al and the military-industrial complex. I have been to the border, my friends and family have a lot of experience in border towns and there is no dangerous immigrant invasion going on like portrayed by the media. And what open borders? Biden has deported more people than Trump.
Why is this particular political structure and electoral process and set of parties the best? Can't we be more creative? We can do so much more than vote in this same process which makes us choose the 'lesser evil' to save democracy, every election for decades now. I can't bring myself to legitimize the US and still feel a clean conscience any longer.
Yes it is pure scare mongering, that is how most media makes money. You are more likely to be murdered by your parents than an immigrant. What do you mean by "what's going on?" I enjoy freedom and good quality of life, which is why I think borders shouldn't exist.
This is one of my favorite Jesus quotes, because it complements the idea that no one but god is free from sin. So no one can judge the sins of others but god and Jesus, but basically all the actual Christians that love it are ignorant on their own religion and think they are free from sin unlike those dang gays and such.
Blockading food” The state of Israel just presented today to the supreme court that 6000 truck per months entered gaza since hmammas started this shit. Thats not blockade.
They can say anything they want though, Israel has continuously limited aid for the purpose of causing starvation of Palestinians, IDF officials have openly admitted this.
Republicans only rank so high for gun ownership because of the dozens of people that have an armories worth. Left -wing and marginalized people will have one or two guns that are effective, not a stockpile of tacticool attachments and WW2 rifles.
They are just pointing out that these phrases are used for that, which is why they are recognized as "thought-terminating cliches", it doesn't mean they are always used in such a way. You can be aware of manipulative language without being an anarchist or commie.
Well yes I think all of us should be the better person, obviously easier said than done! I'm not a fan of ridicule or bullying of course (except against actual nazis maybe) and I feel bad if you or anyone has been hurt by harassment. I am mostly just trying to say this sort of infighting is all just taken too seriously, and arguing about 'tankies', which can mean any number of things to different people, doesn't seem helpful to anyone in my view.
For what it's worth, like another comment said I do really appreciate the work you and others have done to make this instance possible! I don't have any resentment for anyone in this situation and I hope hexers and us here can all come together better in the future, we have more alike than in difference.
I wasn't saying you were immature, I said the whole situation was. The impetus for the whole thing, deleting of the post, also seemed to make no sense to me at all. But to elevate the situation after that was what I meant was immature really. And from there it just seemed like a schoolyard fight or something, all of it just being a waste of time distracting and taking energy away from everyone involved.
I don't know all the details of the drama but I'm sorry you haven't had better interactions with hexbear. Some users can be problematic like any place, but I have been inspired by the effort, genuine good faith debate and historical analysis that is common in hexbear discussions. I'm anarchist, I first came to the fediverse through this instance and haven't had any issue with hexbear, and personally would defed from .world before hexbear lol.
Can you clarify how hexbear facilities harassment? I'm not saying you're wrong but I just don't know what you mean. They have the_dunk_tank which you could argue does but they changed the rules to discourage dunking on anyone that isn't a prominent voice, if there is harassment from users I haven't seen the mods do anything to encourage it.
What hate comments are you talking about? I legit don't know what you are talking about and I post there almost exclusively. You say 'not us' but what is this post full of attempted shame on hexbear then? Have you seen the hex thread about defederating? The hex users share kindness for dbzer0 users, the reasons for the banning seemed pretty reasonable and consistent with their policies, and they voted against defederating. From my perspective this whole situation seems a bit immature.
I swear 90% of the people deriding hexbear were offended by one post and never went back or saw a post that was entirely full of sarcastic comments and thought it was unironic. I'm not even ML, I call myself an anarchist and argue about all kinds of shit on hexbear and I have found it to be a very caring community, and actually doesn't tolerate transphobia or imperialist apologia unlike most online spaces.
Funny, in this 'drama' hex voted against defederation and voiced support for dbzer0 users. The bans from hex admins seemed reasonable if you look at the event history.
Which is why hex voted against defederation ahah, hex and dbzer0 users are largely allies from what I've seen so it's kind of funny the admin is banned.
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And further alienate any actual people that might support them. They have to condemn political violence because it was an attack on their class, and their class solidarity overrides any political rivalry. But even my very liberal friend said "dang, it's too bad they missed." Idk what my Christian grandma feels about the shooting but when Trump got covid she did say he deserved it.