tocopherol @ tocopherol @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply you believe that, but you said it sounded like Israel had good reason to prop them up, and you didn't deny that Israeli policies allowed Hamas to take power in Gaza.

The IDF have been demolishing residential buildings after seizing them. The IDF destroyed medical equipment, supplies and set fires on floors of al-Shifa hospital after raiding it. They target journalists in their home and kill their entire families with air strikes. Can you tell me the 'good reason' for these acts? What reason do you have for supporting atrocities like what Israel has been doing for years?

What tf does it matter what they believe when there is an ongoing slaughter of thousands of people? Palestine is more than Hamas. You say Hamas is evil but it's a good thing Israel put them in place? You are seriously heartless. I pray Israel is destroyed. According to your logic, it would be justified to kill every other Israeli at random to stop religious extremists in their government.

If Hamas wasn't there, an even more effective group would emerge to fight Israel. The offensive on Oct 7th was by a coalition of groups. You say no one made Gaza put them in charge, but Israel has spent millions propping up Hamas. They were chosen by Israel specifically because of their unpalatable extremism. Israel has supported Hamas materially while taking steps to thwart other groups. Israel has used all avenues possible for years to create the situation we see now.

There have been actual independent autospies done, I don't mean a quick glance at a body. And I would build tunnels too if my neighbor had a history of bombing me and seizing my terrority.

Every non-state militant group is claimed to use the civilian population as human shields. This simply isn't true, it's rhetoric to justify the bombing because it's simpler than fighting on the ground. In assymetric warfare a resistance group has no choice but to be active in the place they are stuck at. Even if they were using human shields, it shows the IDF is heartless because they have no concern for any civilian deaths, including Israeli hostages.

It's like if a bank robber took a hostage and a cop just blasted through them, killing half the bank. That would be horrific and unnecessary murder.

The IDF has killed more people than Hamas has militants, mostly women and children. Precision targetted aid vehicles multiple times. The bodies of children shot by sniper fire have been examined and confirmed several times even before this escalation. If you are still so deluded by propaganda to say that Hamas is using human shields then there is no hope of discussion. I pray you go to Gaza yourself to witness hell.

Their 'proxies' are actually responding to Israeli genocide, I have more respect for Houthi rebels than most governments.

Fuck off with your tired excuses. You're right though, the killing isn't indescriminate, they skillfully target aid workers, refugee convoys and hospitals. Israel isn't an independent actor, they are killing as many as they possibly can while still maintaining just enough support to continue arms sales from the US. Even the UK government is considering halting transfers because of a fear of complicity in genocide.

Who gives a fuck what excuses a genocide denier finds to argue with?

Do you really believe the IDF could so blatantly destroy all of Palestine without anyone noticing? The Israeli state would crumble without western support, they have to maintain plausible deniability. But their own policies state they don't recognize Palestine.

Would you like to see footage of it? I don't have the energy but it doesn't take long to find direct evidence of this happening, numerous times for years. The IDF purposely kills children. In one documented instance they even tied a Palestinian child to the hood of their vehicle as a shield. It sounds comically absurd and evil but this is what we know of.

Numerous places I've lived had contracts with Comcast so there was no option but them, and the speed is shit, maybe they needed to raise prices to pay for their forced monopolies.

Images after bombing, the area was essentially carpet bombed. There have been thousands of more bombs dropped since this article. The IDF wouldn't function without western support. This is plausable deniability, they can kill substantial numbers of people and blame it on this system or 'collateral damage'. They have to maintain an image at least somewhat. So they kill as many as they can get away with.

The Israeli state has made it clear for years they don't believe in the long-term existance of Palestine. This is part of their project to eliminate as many Palestinians as possible to more easily take territory.

Diverging IDF agendas: "Should we bomb the children or starve them?"

If every politician we can vote for is evil or a slightly 'lesser' evil, we need to do much more than vote anyway.

Death to Israel and their supporters

"We can save millions in advertising, just get your friend Will to post about it, it will be great."

For 8 years now his base has been firmly convinced that the mainstream establishment is an enemy of Trump and 'the people'. From what I've seen any words against Trump coming from establishment liberals is more likely to entrench Trumps support than weaken it.

This honestly reads like a sarcastic joke, I'm not sure if it just went over everyone's head here

From the reports I've heard by amateur youtubers, those dumb face thumbnails actually do get them more traction