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  • @ProtonBadger The entire update process takes 20 minutes or so (never timed it), at least sometimes. I also had an alias before, but recently rewrote it as a script to do similar things, including pacman, yay, flatpak, rustup and a few other things. And from all of this stuff, most of the time its flatpak that inflates the update process time.

  • @elouboub It's AMD. 100% sure. And the best part is, the situation with Nvidia is nowadays improved. So this is the current best case we have...

  • @1984 Unfortunately not everything is in the AUR or I do not want to trust everyone on the AUR. And there are other reasons to use Flatpak over native packaging (including AUR):

    • kdenlive and Krita: I do not want to install the entire suite and dependencies of KDE.
    • bottles: The Flatpak version is the recommended one by the devs and the only supported one I think.
    • xemu: Yes it's also available on, but I do not know who the uploader and manager of this binary is. While the Flatpak version an official package is.
    • zeal: Same reason as xemu.

    And that's basically it (ok there is Flatseal too... but that does not count to our discussion). Everything else is installed through native packaging. So there is not much reason to use Flatpak and I just started with it recently. But there are sometimes reasons for.

  • @Sina I have LTS and the newest one.

  • @skullgiver

    I doubt they’re all full downloads. Flatpak does a lot of deduplication.

    It downloads every single of them fully. Took 15 minute or so for all the packages or longer. This is going on since I started with Flatpak. The Nvidia drivers are not de-duplicated or partial downloads on my system.

    You can see it in your screenshot as well, 140MB downloads that are marked as completed even though only a few megabytes were actually fetched.

    That's not the one I am complaining. The drivers are the ones named as org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-xxx-xx-xx . These are the different driver versions of Nvidia and each of the 7 versions are 340 MB or more and are always downloaded fully. You can see each of them like 340,9 / 341,8 MB. What you was referring to is not what I am complaining. The extraction of the archives and installation is quick. Every other package is quick, only those take this long.

    but the sheer download size isn’t the problem in my experience. Not great, but not as terrible as it may seem.

    It isn't a hard problem, but very annoying. Not sure how fast internet access you have, I have under 7 MB/s. And only counting the Nvidida drivers through Flatpak alone is 2.3 GBytes. Imagine adding all the other updates in Flatpak, plus the system update of my OS itself and the DKMS. It adds up a lot.

  • @aleph I use Qtile and instead setting it up from scratch (again), I decided to use the community Qtile spin on EndeavourOS. It uses a few XFCE applications, but not the Desktop Environment. I just checked the current state of the source and it sure is the default: https://github.com/EndeavourOS-Community-Editions/qtile/blob/main/.config/xfce4/terminal/terminalrc

    BTW Jetbrains Mono is one of the fonts I wanted try out. But right now, Cascadia is new to me as well and I quiet like it. So will use it for a while now and maybe next time I switch to Jet.

  • @aleph Hope I do not get cancelled for, but this is actually a font from Windows/Microsoft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CascadiaCode It is Open Source and was the default font for my OS I think. The problem is finding a font that looks good and has good support for emojis, glyphs and icons, ligatures for programming and such. And I wanted to try different font.

  • @gabriele97 Yes, I stated that in my post and it can be seen on the screenshot.
    Edit: No problem. :-)

  • @aleph "Cascadia Code"
    Here is fastfetch output:

     
        
    OS: EndeavourOS x86_64
    Kernel: 6.1.51-1-lts
    Uptime: 50 mins
    Packages: 1149 (pacman), 34 (flatpak)
    Shell: bash 5.1.16
    Display (AG271QG): 2560x1440 @ 120Hz
    DE: qtile
    WM: Qtile 0.22.1 (X11)
    Theme: Arc-Dark [GTK2/3]
    Icons: Qogir-dark [GTK2/3]
    Font: Cascadia Code (12pt) [GTK2/3]
    Cursor: Qogir
    Terminal: xfce4-terminal 1.1.0
    Terminal Font: Cascadia Code (13pt)
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) E3-1230 v3 (8) @ 3,7 GHz
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Memory: 3,11 GiB / 15,57 GiB (20%)
    Disk (/): 122,70 GiB / 227,21 GiB (54%) - ext4
    Disk (/media/Backup): 149,83 GiB / 916,70 GiB (16%) - ext4
    Disk (/media/Emulation): 3,83 TiB / 5,41 TiB (71%) - ext4
    Disk (/media/My): 1,04 TiB / 3,58 TiB (29%) - ext4
    Disk (/media/System): 411,39 GiB / 915,82 GiB (45%) - ext4
    Locale: en_US.UTF-8
    
    
      
  • @missbrainfart There are many little things encountered over the years. But I do not have a list or anything like that. Nvidia is always in my way somehow. Wayland support was or still is not great with Nvidia in example and one of the reasons why I don't consider trying Wayland.

    Then for a long time it G-Sync didn't work properly with applications that should, had some tearing too related to problems with picom. I have to run the nvidia-settings gui once at boot, otherwise I have all the problems described before. I use a command to run it without showing gui. Found this solution by accident after 6 months of terror, as searching the web didn't help me.

    And for a long time, I got used to it and it wasn't driving me crazy or anything. When I put my system to sleep and wake it up, the Firefox window would have garbage pixelation (complete random). I just had to move the window once and everything was normal again. That's because it has GPU acceleration and somehow this is a known bug by Nvidia that is unsolved. Or at least it was, because this does not happen anymore.

    What do we have else in my head right now? Gamescope, the SteamOS compositor, didn't work with Nvidia before it got official support. I needed that to solve a problem, to play a certain game that was otherwise not playable. So yes, that's not a problem anymore I think (didn't use it for a while now), but it was another thing that was in my way. I know this has todo with the official support of Gamescope and not just being nvidia, but it was related to Nvidia and in my way.

    Somehow... the problems I encounter are connected to Nvidia. But as said, I don't have a full list of problems and these are just a few things come to my mind.

  • @qwesx I am not familiar with ZFS filesystem. How does it affect this or plays a role?

  • @wolf4ood I'm a little bit shocked there was no scanning and malware check before this incident.

  • @lobut I thought Donkey Kong Country on the SNES was photorealistic and rivaled movies like Terminator 2, which used the same technology behind the scenes. I thought every game would look the same as Donkey Kong Country in future.

  • @gamma I just use them out of consistency and principle, so I don't need to think in which case it is required or not.