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  • I am admittedly salty about my own experience with it which definitely skews me towards the negative view of it, I just dont like to see people jumping on that app and thinking that that alone will see them through learning a language.

    I do see your points of using it as a supplement to learning through other methods but also due to the fact that it taught me a few different things that were flat out wrong I just think that there are better supplementary learning resources.

    Also personally I really struggle with languages and wasting so much time on that app really destroyed my motivation for learning the language in general and as such my initial momentum has gone and I haven't really progressed at all recently. Engagement is important like you say and I dont think the streaks are a bad idea but the way they implement them is insidious in that it is all tailored to keep you in app and hopefully paying them IMO.

    My initial message was more in disgust of the app as a whole, I wouldn't go as far as to say I expressed hate otherwise I'd have used much stronger language but again everyone's opinion on that line will be different. I just dont think it is good at all and if I can dissuade people from using it then I will. Maybe I should have put the alternatives I mentioned in the first comment to balance out the message but it is too late now :D

  • I kind of see what you mean but for me I really liked it as I am not very good at languages at all, maths and science makes more sense to my brain.

    I appreciated that they went through and made links with the English language based on the common root that they shared be it Latin or whatever. For me this helped me a lot to understand what was going on in the background of the language and how I could relate it to what I already know.

    Everyone learns differently and so will find different methods effecrive. Duolingo was a lot better when it first came about but now it is all about getting people trapped in a loop of feeling like they are learning something when they aren't so they can maintain subscribers.

  • Except for the fact that it is designed to keep you coming back and hopefully paying them for the privaledge whilst making people believe they are learning something useful.

    It is in fact counter productive to actually learning a language properly. I used it for a year and a half trying to learn Spanish and in that time I never really learnt anything of worth. On top of that my native Spanish speaking girlfriend told me on numerous occasions that the things it was "teaching" me were flat out incorrect.

    I learnt more useful language skills in a month on Busuu than I did in a year and a half using Duolingo. So yes there is a lot of hate because it wasted a lot of my time for absolutely zero benefit and in some cases taught me the wrong things so I had to go back and "unlearn" all the bullshit it constantly pushed to me.

    It isn't a tool to bridge a gap, it is a word game designed to get you addicted to "streaks" and then hopefully remove money from your wallet under the guise of teaching you something.

    People that seriously want to learn a language should be dissuaded from using this trash app as it is only counter productive to the learning process, they should instead check out Busuu or listen to Language Transfer which is free and vastly superior!

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  • Interesting. Just a couple of years ago AI generated audiobooks were unlistenable for me due to the dead voice delivery but the example here actually sounds like it would be alright to listen to.

    Definitely want to give this a try for some books that have never had an audio book recording. Thanks for posting!

  • I do like it with those controller attachments, it does improve it further still be sacrifices a bit of portability in terms of no longer being pocket friendly.

    I do agree it can be uncomfortsble after a time but for me that is more after hours opposed to minutes but everyone's bodies are different and I can see why is may cramp some peoples hands quicker.

    I find with the steam deck it is just a bit too large for me, it makes it feel a bit unwieldy and unstable in my hands for some reason. For me I think the sweet spot in terms of comfort would probably be something in the middle.

    It probably has a lot to do with the kinds of games I play on it as well though. On the vita I played a lot of jrpgs, it really was a beast for that genre, and with those games it can be a lot more menus with turn based combat etc. That means I'd often play with it flat on my lap and not gripping it like a controller which is definitely a less cramped position.

  • As a vita lover I couldn't agree more. I didn't play the assassins creed game but they had similar stuff in the Uncharted game which ultimately made me quit the game.

    I remember having to hold it up to light to reveal something in game and I was playing at night whilst on public transport and no lights around me were emitting enough light to pass this stupid "mini game" -_-

  • Yeh IMO they are too large. I have a steam deck and I barely ever use it outside the house because it just isnt really that portable in terms of being able to fit it in a bag with all the other stuff you may need when going away, it takes up more than half of my bag space.

    So I reverted back to my vita and the experience of actually using it as a portable is miles ahead. Like you say I can slip it in my pocket when transferring between trains or the like and it doesn't fill half my bag when not in use.

    I'm a big guy so dont have the smallest hands either but honestly find the steam deck a bit uncomfortable where as the vita just feels good to me.

  • I love the vita, feels so good in your hands and is a great size for actually being portable.

    I dont use mine as much as I used to but for a while when travelling it was my only system and I had a lot of fun with it.