Steve Sparrow @ theothersparrow @lemmy.one

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But seriously what does the Koala know can we even handle such knowledge

An extremely fun episode, had a stupid grin on my face right from the opening.

One thing that jumped out at me was the adjectives used: "scientists, explorers, adventurers." The episode reinforced what Starfleet as an organization and Trek as a concept are all about.

SNW spins out of DIS season 2, so probably watch that before starting SNW.

Beyond that I wouldn't say there's a strict order, until the recent SNW/LD crossover the rest have been pretty self-contained (almost regrettably so).

Megamind: "Lol get ostriched idiot"

but it’s also Star Trek discovery

This is important; there's a distinct feel to the narrative, cinematography, performances and dialogue that the other series def don't have and kinda maintains through all four (soon to be five) seasons.

Depends on what you disliked about it.

But imo season 3 is where the series grows it's beard.

My nipples got stiff.

New (final ;_;) season can't come fast enough.

A Short Trek with them bickering, please.

Their early scenes kind of felt pissy in a way you don’t usually see in star trek.

I liked them, personally. I often think about what conflict would look like in a post-scarcity people... and sibling resentment, minor grudges (re: Una) feel like the sort of thing that stand the test of time.

That was the only part of the episode I found weird.

Like congrats a captain that doesn't just leave their ship for every little thing... but not even a lil' interaction with them? Not even a "howdy?"

They sneezed at it wrong... and the shutdown measures malfunctioned.

And they couldn't very well just let the deuterium-creatures continue being butchered while they sorted it out.

There’s a pithy saying about science that goes, “All models are wrong, but some models are useful.”

It reminds me of something a sociology professor said about economic and sociological theories being lenses that focus on particular aspects of the world--they can't see everything, but often they can narrow in on certain parts to aid our understanding.

... you're going to wait for someone to self identify?

"Hey we're the enslavers, we're here to enslave people." That's what you're expecting?

Let's not forget priming a number of the remaining for inflating the prison population.

... which is the same as "forcing the remainder to work" come to think.

Because we're emotional creatures first, we default to what's familiar or comfortable. Logic/critical thinking take sustained practice and a lot of effort. There's a study that suggests that many of our conscious choices are simply post-hoc rationalizations for decisions made in the unconscious.

I absolutely no longer trust anyone that insists they're naturally and perfectly logical, they are unquestionably hiding some fixation or personal opinion which--if challenged--will make them unravel in the worst fashion.

We definitely didn't get enough of his reaction to the human reveal.

Poor guy! Imagine being married to someone like his wife…

Bold of you to assume that her domineering personality isn't exactly what he likes about her.

They're like GLaDOS if she was... decent.

It's such a tragic moment because both their responses were reasonable.

T'Pring is about to be Spock's wife, and it's not simply a business union--she's very much in love with him. She's eager to be his partner and keeping changes in his life from her compromises that partnership.

The thing about Spock is that up to the end of the episode he's still wrestling with the isolation that being bi-racial has come with--he's aware that T'Pring should be let in but emotionally he's never come around to that, having grown up at odds with other Vulcans.

What saddens me is that if Spock had communicated how his status affects his approach to full-blooded Vulcans (indeed if had even known to communicate it), I have no doubt T'Pring would have been much more forgiving... alas we sometimes figure out ourselves too late.

So wouldn’t a human Spock (with biologically human nature, but the nurture that Spock carries from his life experience being raised as a Vulcan) actually be super rational and logical?

I reasoned that whatever tools Spock employed failed for one of two reasons:

1. Vulcan responses to emotion are extreme: surprise isn't just surprise it's abject terror, happiness isn't just happiness but absolute mf hype, disappointment is more like a spiral of depression. Since human response to emotion is much more measured by comparison, he'd need time to recalibrate... time he didn't have.
2. The procedure that removed his hybrid nature removed whatever moderation was done to him. As a normal human he may not even have a katra anymore, so it's possible that whatever physiological changes that take place after kolinar aren't there because not all of the physiology is there.