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  • The only purpose S0 standby has on my work laptop is to make sure that my bluetooth headset always prioritizes connecting to my sleeping laptop in my backpack over connecting to my phone that I want to watch youtube on while on the train.

  • It's an EEE PC 1005P. It's an outdated piece of garbage, but sleeping works perfectly and the battery life is crazy. 8 hours on its extended battery, 5 hours on the stock battery. And these aren't new batteries either.

    With AntiX Linux performance is ok enough for what I need it for.

  • I also had it that one laptop was configured to wake any time the mouse moved even a tiny bit. So walk past the laptop, laptop is now awake.

    Sadly I cannot configure any of that on my work laptop, because helpdesk thinks allowing me to do so would be a security risk or something like that.

  • Tbh, I don't know. The last time I used a desktop on a daily basis was 2020, and that was just my work PC where I wouldn't really care if it woke up while I wasn't at work.

    The last time I had a desktop PC at home was in 2009, so I really can't say what is happening there in the meantime.

    And at least to me, sleep on a laptop is much more important than on a desktop. Battery usage isn't really a thing on a desktop (usually at least).

    Interestingly, I do own a little 2010 netbook that I use as an ultra-mobile laptop when I really don't need any kind of performance, and that one does all sleep states including hibernation perfectly out of the box. Even when just sleeping it loses maybe 1-2% of charge per day.

    But all the other laptops I own suck when sleeping.

  • I wouldn't mind if at least hibernation worked. But it always loses the state on hibernate and acts as if there was just a power loss. It boots up with a fresh state instead of the stored one.

  • Sleep and hibernate don't work for me.

    Hibernate just acts like a power loss. After shutting down the state is just lost and the laptop starts up with a fresh boot.

    With Modern Sleep, kernels 6.11+ go to sleep fine, but don't manage to wake back up. The keyboard lights up for half a minute, the fan goes on, the screen stays dark and after half a minute the laptop goes back to sleep. Kernel 6.10 sometimes works, sometimes behaves like 6.11+. I'd say it works 80% of the time.

    I disabled Modern Sleep in BIOS and tried to enable S3, S2 and S2+S3 in BIOS instead. I set the corresponding sleep states in Linux as well, and no matter which one of the non-modern-sleep options I try, and no matter if I'm using kernel 6.10 or 6.15, it never manages to wake up (same symptoms as above).

  • Lenovo LOQ 15ARP9.

    To unlock, go to the BIOS, open advanced settings, hold FN+R+N, release, press F10 to save and reboot, head back to the BIOS and all options are unlocked.

    Some Lenovo laptops have other key combinations, some need a tool, some need a modified BIOS.

  • I unlocked my bios (luckily Lenovo allows that with just a "secret" key combination in the bios) and disabled modern sleep, enabled S3 and S2 and tried that, with the result that my Linux freezes every time on wake up instead of only half the time...

    Don't know what exactly they messed up there, but it's frustrating.

  • Stuff can work, but it also cannot work. It really comes down to the exact hardware combination and the games you are running and often even plain luck.

    And if you are in the "It doesn't work" camp, then you are screwed without serious skill.

    Gaming on Linux is kind of like relationships. If you are one of the lucky ones where it works without effort, be grateful and don't go around telling everyone who has problems that it's super easy. Because it's more luck than skill and your experience might not fit the experience that others have.

  • Linux @lemmy.world

    Why is sleep so hard for laptops?

  • On the one hand you are right, on the other hand, especially paleontology is basing their facts on very, very shaky evidence and a massive amount of extrapolation.

    So I assume that it’s wrong until undeniably proven otherwise by the scientific method.

    So you assume everything is wrong? Because in fact, that's not how the scientific method works at all.

    Outside of the very few fields that are pure and untouched by reality, like e.g. maths, there are no proofs, and certainly no undeniable proofs in science. Everything is "just" a theory and is used until proven wrong or otherwise refined. Usually a theory with a decent amount of evidence, but nothing is proven beyond deniability in science. That's religion you are thinking about.

  • There's the regular wireless charging where you need to put the phone on exactly the right position. That one is totally useless, since it's even less flexible than cable charging. The only upside is that you don't need to physically insert the cable. That's pretty much worthless.

    There's another setup that allows you to charge over a larger area, e.g. a whole desk. That is expensive and/or much work, since it needs to be integrated into the whole area (e.g. desk) and it's incredibly wasteful in terms of energy consumption that doesn't actually end up charging the phone.

    The only real upside I can see of wireless charging is that you can use it if your USB C port is worn out and doesn't work any more.

  • Technology @lemmy.world

    How fair is a Fairphone? (Or, how much of the sticker price does Fairphone spend on fair/eco?)

    Showerthoughts @lemmy.world

    Combine Eurotruck Simulator with remote controlled trucks and you got a fleet of "self-driving" trucks for free.

    Today I Learned @lemmy.world

    Monopoly Go is the highest-budget video game so far.