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  • "I dont vote for right wingers on the right or the left" is the closest I can get to a single standard to apply to all candidates.

    But its more nuanced than that, isnt it-- as much as you'd like to pretend otherwise. You're either pretending not to understand, in which case you're just a troll, or you're too limited in your cognitive empathy to understand, in which case, you arent worth anyones time to talk to.

  • We dont need Israel for much of anything. We have an air base in jordan a few miles from the Israel border. We have turkey, Cyprus, the UAE, bases all over, even inside Syria, really everywhere except for inside Israel. To our military Israel is completely useless, and a potent risk of "accidental" SAM launches.

    And if anyone seriously thinks the lack of bases inside their territory means They work for us, instead of the reality which is our politicians work for them, then you're just disregarding the proof thats clearly there even by the pattern of base presences, and the fact that democratic politicians are roped into a far right wing genocide. The idea that they are our "ally", that they are our "aircraft carrier in the middle east" and that they are a proxy for the US just doesnt match any of these facts. We're being fed Israeli propoganda and a lot of you are lapping it up because its most convenient for you.

  • The reason is that Israel has been a steadfast ally in advancing and defending us interests for half a century

    what a load of crap. Israel almost always has right wing leadership and those leaders run far more billboards celebrating their relationship with Putin that with the US. We have no operational bases there. They havent participated in any of our military conflicts. They are not an extension of US power. If they were, we have operations happening out of there.

  • theres about 7.5 jewish voters split between republicans and dems. Theres about 3.7 arab american voters which are part of the 4.45 million muslim voters. Jews arent a voting block of a size to be overly concerned about. And the dems probably lose more votes supporting israel than they gain. So this is about money, not votes.

  • Theres far far far more anti muslim violence than anti jewish. ADL has been counting people saying mean things online as a spike in anti semitic violence. Words are not violence. Holding a sign objecting to Israeli actions are not violence. And objecting to Israel is not anti semitic.

  • This will blow back way harder on Israel than America.

    I dont think the US will walk away from this free of any consequences at all. The chickens will come home to roost. You dont kill that many people and leave that many affected victims and just saunter off into the sunset with no consequences whatsoever.

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  • But it begs the question, why do we care what a minority of people think in Russia? No one here owes any Russian anything. Not Nvidia drivers, not.. anything. I say we firewall the whole Russian state off from the internet and call it a day. Tired of their cheating in every sporting event, killing citizens of other countries, blowing up pipelines, and generally behaving like shitty little gangster hooligans. Is there a small number of good people there? Sure. But thats not any of our problem-- thats their problem.

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  • I feel that many Russians are against Putler’s regime

    Well thats not what any polls anywhere say. Where did you get that from? Reminds me of this saying: "Wish into one hand and shit into the other and see which one gets full first."

  • Nice to see Biden finally start doing some stuff now that his term is ending and the election is in jeopardy. If only he had the same energy a year ago, we wouldnt be in these straits. Its like he's cramming overnight for an exam he knew was coming, and he's aiming for that sweet sweet passing grade of C-.

  • Implicit in your assertion is that we can stave off this collapse and that theres plenty of time to iterate to some changes.

    Consider that by 2050 we'll need 60% more food than we produce now, and projections are that with climate change effects we'll have no way to make that much, even if we start all eating bugs and kelp. So at the end of many of our lifetimes we'll observe tangible impacts. 2050 is just 26 years from now. So just sit on our hands and be patient, you think?

    https://www.un.org/en/academic-impact/worlds-food-supply-made-insecure-climate-change#:~:text=In%20the%20next%2030%20years,system's%20vulnerability%20to%20climate%20change.

  • which is what most people are trying to do

    I dont agree that this is happening. Climate pledges are being abandoned. The imagination of International solutions are being abandonded for self serving ones. Even recycling in my area has been throttled way back. Internal combustion engine cars are surging back into popularity. One of the biggest possible polluting events are wars, and theres possibly a whole bunch on the horizon as Pax Americanan ends with the disolution of our soft power. We are not motivated to make progress and our political system and international reach seems to be in decline.

    If you look at the trajectories we are on in multiple areas, you can see inevitabilities. I dont fault you for having hope that the whole of human society will pull it out of the fire at the last second, but I no longer beleive its in our nature to act on these threats. Americans arent even convinced climate change is real.

    I still do beleive in the good will of the American people, and their ability to rebuild quickly and better. When forced to come together on a pursuit, American free thinking outpaces other international mindsets pretty reliably. Or it used to.

  • Anyone suggesting that societal collapse is a good outcome doesn’t really understand what societal collapse entails.

    Anyone who says preserving the status quo is a viable outcome doesnt really understand how high the cost of that status quo is.

    Participating in an Ethnic cleansing of a group that is 26% of the humans on the planet will end in tears for us, and pull this country inexorably rightward as we respond to its effects. Even now just a few Yemeni missiles on cargo ships in the Suez has upended Americans faith in the dems by raising prices. Thats with true pushback having not even begun yet. DNC leadership and dem voters are not taking the long view on this. Why dont you think long term and tell me what you see 8 years into the future.

  • Obama pushing Obamacare is a big part of how we won back the house in 2018. Policies that directly help the American people are somehow very popular with the dem and independent voters, go figure.

    "Reaching across the aisle" and getting watered down bullshit outcomes is not popular.