SorteKanin @ SorteKanin @feddit.dk

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Then again, how many examples are there for things that should “just work” and do on Linux but don’t on Windows?

Maybe some but much, much fewer. It shouldn't be surprising - Microsoft has hundreds if not thousands of people hired specifically for creating working UX and design. Linux just can't compete with that since it's mostly developers working on it and, again, developers unfortunately make for awful UX designers.

I don't think external monitors or a responsive UI is a matter of "perspective". These are things that should just work, always, for everyone.

What are the examples you are thinking of btw?

People who believe aliens have come from other star systems to visit us must not have a very good idea of the distances involved in the universe.

You can't imagine how far away other stars are. Like seriously, it's bonkers far away. The idea that an intelligent civilization would randomly arrive on Earth at this very time where we exist is absurd. And I mean that, because the journey would at least take thousands of years. They would not have come because they heard our signals or anything like that, because at the time they set off, we were in the stone age.

The idea of aliens visiting earth is just absurd if you actually know the distances involved, but unfortunately a lot of people think stuff works like in the sci fi movies and the aliens will just click their warp drive button and instantly arrive because "alien technology" or whatever. But it doesn't work like that in the real world.

... Where is it leading?

I've previously posted a few examples:

Two 4k external monitors through a docking station - Why is this seemingly effortless for Windows but basically impossible for Linux?

Is there a way to keep Linux responsive when at ~100% CPU usage?

I also regularly have my window manager crash when inserting my laptop into my docking station. Happens maybe 20% of the time. Sometimes even when it works the display scaling makes things blurry until I reset the scaling from 150% back to 100% and back again, then it's fine. Add to this a few annoyances with UI, but these are more forgivable.

There's all kinds of these small problems that compound to just make for a much worse experience. It doesn't just work but it needs to if it really wants to provide a viable alternative to normal people.

Keep in mind, I am not a "normal person" - I am a professional software engineer and I still find all this stuff super annoying.

Yes but it has subpar user experience. But there is no reason you can't have both, that's what I'm saying.

No it's not. Good user experience should also allow for extensive customization. There is nothing mutually exclusive about these things.

Then they earn stuff on their services, not the model. Why should they harvest fediverse data? And so what if they do? Anyone can do that.

Nothing exactly. But that's okay, because the fediverse data is available to all, which makes it worthless, monetarily speaking. Nobody will sell your data to anyone. Any AI company could use the data to train their models, but they wouldn't be able to sell those models since they wouldn't be any better than an open source model. The fediverse levels the playing field and doesn't allow the situation where Google pays reddit for AI training data.

Eh, I'd rather say we are on the fediverse. Lemmy is just the app that some of us use to access the fediverse, but there are many others.

What do you mean?

Linux isn't minimal effort. It's an operating system that demands more of you than does the commercial offerings from Microsoft and Apple. Thus, it serves as a dojo for understanding computers better. With a sensei who keeps demanding you figure problems out on your own in order to learn and level up.

Guy says this as if it's a good thing lol. That's the real reason people don't use Linux, nobody making Linux seems to care about user experience for normal people.

Knowing whether it may snow or rain depending on whether you are below or above 0 is very useful though. 0 and 100 are only intuitive because you're used to those numbers. -20 bring very cold and 40 being very hot is just as easy.

it wouldn’t make sense for the server to hold your private key, since that would mean the owner of your instance could make posts as you.

I mean, this is quite normal and common for all traditional social media (or any site really) you sign up for. It's what most ActivityPub instances do too, though there's nothing in ActivityPub that requires the server to hold the private key. It could in principle be held by the client but I don't believe there is any implementation that does that currently.

But what if the server that holds the cryptographic keys is suddenly gone? Then what?

Or does Bluesky use client-held keys? I just think client-held private keys is probably too complicated for most people to realistically and safely use.

Right, of course. I don't really see any way any protocol can get around that though. If the original server is suddenly just gone, there is no way to tell it to move your account elsewhere. Hopefully such a situation should happen very rarely though.

ActivityPub actually has a similar mechanism of a "Move" activity. There are just very few implementations that support that kind of thing.

That's... exactly what I'm saying. Did you misunderstand my comment perhaps? Normies are not "choosing" not to learn, they just literally don't have the tech literacy skills to easily participate in the fediverse. The fediverse should improve its UX to allow more people to participate.

I think I’m probably closer to the normies than the stereotypical tech-literate Mastodon person.

Just from the fact that you are here, it is statistically likely that you are much closer to the tech literates than the normies. Can you search for a specific email in your email inbox? You're already way ahead of many people. You are severely overestimating the technical literacy of normal people.

Seriously yea. Same reason Linux user experience is generally bad. Unfortunately engineers usually make for poor designers.

I’m pretty dumb and uneducated

Statistically speaking, the mere fact that you are here indicates that you are among the top percentages of tech literal people. This isn't necessarily about intelligence or general education, but about tech literacy.