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  • You know, a place where people don't unironically talk about shooting social democrats who won't swear fealty to Stalin. Or who can acknowledge that China's nearly complete lack of public trials is alarming.

    I feel like these should be super low bars, yet...

  • Exactly. I legitimately long for an actual leftist space which isn't just edgy anti-western brain rot. I want to actually discuss theory and praxis and statecraft with people who can actually acknowledge that obsessive Chinese autocracy should be condemned as harshly as western imperialism. Unfortunately, my experience on Lemmy has once again demonstrated that this is impossible.

  • To be fair this is hardly a problem unique to western capitalism. Gulag labor in the USSR was widely acknowledged and documented. And there are likewise credible accusations of forced labor (and much worse) in China as well. It's bad in every case, and intellectually honest observers would condemn this practice in every instance.

    This isn't capitalism or communism - it's an autocracy and human rights issue. The places with the best criminal justice outcomes these days are generally the "third way socialism" eg Scandinavian model countries which have a blended version of regulated capitalism and wealth redistribution.

  • No, I don't hate the other guy. I have 30 years worth of experience dealing with well meaning conservatives. I hate Nazis. I can tell the difference. If you can't because the issue is too close to home, again, that is on you.

  • Historians have a word for people who joined the Nazi party, openly associated with Nazis and flew the Nazi flag because of economic anxiety, misplaced politics or simple ignorance.

    Nazi. The word is Nazi.

    If these people do not like what the party currently stands for, then it is incredibly easy to simply not associate with them.

  • Bro they are literally calling to exterminate liberals, LGBT and trans people. If you really want to wait until that jackboot is crushing your windpipe so you can smugly whisper "both sides" with your final breath, that's your deal. I will call a spade a spade.

  • I have been to Iceland and Greenland and Alaska and Norway, etc. I promise you there is no utilitarian need to hunt whales in any of these places. They all have grocery stores where you can buy pineapples for reasonable prices.

    We can argue tradition, but there is no utility here.