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Right, the entire point is that democracy is when you have real conversations about issues . Not when you call them brainwashed and ignore them.

Your truth seeking methodology is "US bad." I am skeptical of that methodology. If you want to realistically engage with that, then I am fully there. But until then, "you are brainwashed and I am enlightened" just isn't a super interesting conversation

The problem is that the Blockchain needs to support actual applications with actual intrinsic value in order for the coins to also have intrinsic value in order to incentivize participation in the network. That application has to be more than just payment processing for the coins, because it's kind of shitty at doing that compared to current infrastructure. And because that entire logic is very circular.

The reality is that as a compute or database model, Blockchains have a lot more overhead and don't scale well. The marginal utility of having a decentralized application with some consensus-based validation layer just doesn't rise above those limitations imposed by the tech so far.

Seriously. One full day and I feel like someone attached a balloon to my spleen and is filling it with lead shot. I am noticably uncomfortable to the point of it being distracting. I can't even imagine someone living 2/3 of their life like that.

I mean we are kind of splitting hairs a bit then. The worst thing about fascism is mostly the autocracy and the "ends justify lots of murder" attitude. When people talk about the evils of fascism that's what they're talking about.

Likewise, when people criticize Stalinism, they aren't talking about the high minded ideals or even the questionable fashion choices. They are talking about the autocracy, and the "ends justify lots of murder" attitude.

She's literally the head of a self proclaimed fascist party, isn't she?

I modded a 10M+ sub for years and years and it is laughable how inept reddit's engineering team must be when it comes to developing mod tools. They literally have open source teams hacking mod tools into browser extensions and they still couldn't figure it out.

After a while it became abundantly clear that this kind of boring, iterative feature engineering was just not well funded compared to other parts of the company.

It's like early reddit, except they replaced the conservatives with tankies.

To recap, it seems like I'm the one here willing to engage in critical discussion about both the west and about China. Perhaps that's because I have a personal stake in both societies and wish better for both. You are just hiding behind unfounded and poorly defined accusations of "eurocentrism" and name calling to shut down discussion, without even realizing that it's the exact same cognitive bias you seem so critical of.

Obviously European enlightenment values are not above reproach. I have certainly never made such a claim. You, however seem to be actively asserting that the Chinese system is indeed above reproach, and you also seem to be under the impression that this is the less biased stance. I have not and will not remove your agency by declaring you brainwashed as you have done repeatedly.

Ah I thought you were interested in having a conversation perhaps instead of just vomiting geopolitical head cannon, so that's on me.

But just to clarify, you are or are not in favor of public trials?

FISA courts don't convict people of crimes.

But sure, let's talk about why FISA courts are bad, and also why China should have public trials?

I'll start - though some consider them a national security essential, FISA courts represent a fundamental gap in oversight which has the potential to erode civil liberties. If it must exist at all then it needs a significant overhaul in the way oversight is handled, even mandatory congressional review.

Now you go. How would you improve China's legal system?

The US criminal justice system does not have closed trials. Almost all trials in China are closed.

Is that why the democratically elected Hong Kong legislators were arrested from the floor of their own legislative chamber for supporting democratic ideals? Is that why China still has non-public trials?

Also, China ranks poorly on democracy indexes, freedom indexes and human development index.

But yes, individual freedoms and civil liberties are foundational to political agency. You cannot engage freely with political issues you can't freely discuss. This should be self evident.

So your conjecture is that the country with the heavily censored press is less susceptible to propaganda? Do I have that correct?

How is this productive conversation?

Please explain how you plan to liberate workers by removing their basic political agency. "You are just brainwashed. Please try to keep up."

What about the little eyeball in the corner?

Op, we have decided to go with a different candidate

Ah, I guess that's why nobody ever talks about China's objectively terrifying legal system on lemmygrad. I appreciate the clarification.

Yes, this is the right take, but you never know on this instance

The average person is extremely tech illiterate. This is not a condemnation of their personal choices, or view of the world, or politics or anything like that. Even highly educated people cannot explain even the most basic things about computers, the internet, electricity or the nature of information.

Linux feels simple to you because you likey have both education and experienced with computer systems. However, the interconnected world is not that difficult to understand if you have the opportunity to understand it. This privilege absolutely makes everyone else in the world who does not have that opportunity or desire feel shockingly inept on technology issues.