Sentient Loom @ sentient_loom @sh.itjust.works

A loom that learned to weave itself.

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Free speech is chaotic specifically because it allows chaotic speech. So free speech being chaotic doesn't depend on the speaker's opinions. A particular instance of speech being chaotic depends on the speaker's opinion. But free speech is chaotic because it's all about allowing a chaos of speech.

What depends on my opinions?

I'm pretty sure free speech is chaotic. I'm 100% for it, but it's chaotic.

In relation to "comeuppance," that stuff is not entirely relevant. Frightened goons and croneys/lackeys still show "respect" (and probably feel it as they understand it). They'll also act out the hostile wishes of the cruel bastard they follow. Comeuppance doesn't follow my wishes through them. If I want a good life, I can't get hung up on whether they get what they "deserve." I'm focused on my own things.

And yeah, I've had one of those guys literally yelling at me that "the only respect is fear!" I disagree, but his friends obey him and I'm a loner. There will be no "comeuppance." That's resentfully imagining revenge into the universe. That's how you become warped and hostile. I have things to do. I'm not interested in "comeuppance."

Actions have consequences, but if you're a cruel bastard the consequences might be that people give you more respect than you "deserve," and if you're smart about it then you can manipulate and torture people your whole life. I've seen the "worst" people, totally abusive and dishonest, commanding the most respect. They have no conscience and they spit on people who don't "fall in line." I just avoid them.

Stupidity and bad luck bring about "comeuppance." There's no such thing as "deserve," at least not objectively, not to the universe.

Just do the exercise in reverse

I need more than to just keep working the problem. I'm middle aged and living with family again, I've always been poor even though I excel at all my jobs and I have a degree. And there's no such thing as a "conclusion," except death, so what I'm working at is stable ongoing engagement in an arena where I can maintain that engagement. Still trying to think what that can look like. Thanks for the encouragement.

Can't see the image. Mozilla and chrome both say it's "unsecure" and won't let me proceed to view it.

The power-hungry ones that start campaigns of social warfare, yes. But they're also very socially powerful and are able to dictate social outcomes and perceptions. Often they're jealous that people like me, or that I'm performing very well at a job, and they see my social ineptness as an opportunity and a fun way to publicly demonstrate their superiority in some other arena. To them socializing is warfare. And it's not enough to just call them assholes, because I've lost many friends, and it has severely limited my job prospects. I need a response that benefits me more. But I also can't just keep throwing myself into that thresher. I'm still trying to think of the right approach. Because I'm ambitious and intelligent enough to want more than unemployment and isolation.

this guy gets jokes

Sure. There are layers to it. If I socially interact for a few hours then I'll become exhausted, probably cranky. A psychiatrist said I have ADHD, and the sensory input of multiple persons being around is too much. Social environments tend to be overwhelming. A psychologist said I have avoidant personality disorder, but I'm not sure I agree since my problem isn't based on fear, the fear is downstream to basic social inabilities. But the fear does cause its own problems.

I also have a social phobia. I don't think it's genetic, since I didn't have it as a kid. But my teenage years (11-18) were severely isolated, and full of humiliation and severe loneliness. I just never recovered from that. I spent my 20s trying to learn, forcing myself into all these social environments, but it was mostly just a torturous cycle of collapse.

I over-rely on my sense of humor, and this often causes problems. Most of the time it works really well (people like to laugh, and they appreciate a good joke), so I can make a very good first impression. But when it comes to "actual" social interaction, I simply have no idea what to say, like ever. I can negotiate well on other people's behalf, and I'm good at explaining things, but in open-ended social situations I tend to be weirdly quiet or else I say horribly wrong things without realizing it. I've experienced multiple instances of people doing prolonged campaigns of social warfare against me because I accidentally insulted them, and they recognize my vulnerabilities. I'm terrible at reading non-verbal communication (this isn't just a product of social anxiety or phobia... my brain just doesn't pick up on these things, doesn't know what to do with them). So basically I'm not a social creature. Some people actually have thought that I was mentally handicapped (or experiencing cognitive decline, or that I'm "on drugs") because I just don't respond like an intelligent person. But then I'll go to "therapy" (what a disgusting joke) and they'll see how well I can explain myself, and they'll declare me to be fine. Clearly no problems with "communication" (but socializing isn't just explaining things to a person).

I could go on and on, but that paints a picture.

I'm wired wrong for most social interactions. It's a serious problem, and my attempts to overcome it generally make it much worse. But "accepting myself" means accepting unemployment, and then how can I pay rent? (Currently unemployed and living with family).

However, I don't think people's social behavior is all BS. I try not to be resentful. I know there's lots of BS, but I also know that's what becomes most obvious to me, so it's partly a matter of perception.

Nobody's complaining about the simple.wikipedia part, but you already know that.

They're not missing that part. Nobody's "raging" against simple.wikipedia

On something like wikipedia I only want words that are written by humans, vouched for by individuals who are accountable for what they write.

If I want AI generated content I'll go to an AI site.

Humans are good at writing. We literally invented it and we're experts. I'll stop using wikipedia if they turn into a slop heap.

No matter the context.

But sometimes because of the context, as in this case, where we want info vouched for by actual humans who did research and who can be held accountable, instead of more slop.

Yeah, at that point why bother with wikipedia anyway? If we're just using AI then we're just using AI (but I don't want to just use AI ffs)

I'm not at all serious about it. It's just an excuse to write "my boss fired me" as a punchline.

It's a variation on this:

Maybe I should have put the joke into the image, since a bunch of people are responding sincerely lol. I'm aware that work (modern pseudo-slavery) is horror. There's a never-ending supply of reasons to quit any job.

Of course you can 100% post your sincere answer alongside the others though. You don't need my permission! And it doesn't matter where you live. Post what you want.

I'd rather be waterboarded