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  • Yup. Definite concern troll behavior.

    Pretending the worst prices in the most expensive place in the world for solar are normal. Then pulling the hostage shield politics card in a thread about public spending. Now crying victim.

    Completely standard conservative reactionary behavior.

  • Wouldn't it depend on the artificial structure and how much water you are adding?

    Like a piece of foam painted with pure white IR-emissive CaCO2 is going to be >10 degrees cooler than a black panel with an air gap and glass.

    There are likely tradeoffs (water and cost for the tree being the main downside).

    Personally I think both is good https://www.pv-magazine.com/2023/08/25/sunagri-reveals-agrivoltaics-performance-in-heat-waves/

    Less water, more elecricity and cooler temps than either alone.

  • Wild concept: It's possible to offer a fair price to someone who can. You don't need to pay $20k for one day's labour (although you probably do need to pay about $1k for an hour for a licensed electrician to inspect and do the final hookup if you want to AC feed for winter and cloudy days). You do not need to pay $1/W or wait years for grid tie if you have a battery and size for self consumption.

    Given how thoroughly ripped off you are and how dismissive you are of the price people in civilised countries consider normal, I'll assume you're in the US. Signature solar sell panels for 31c/W hybrid off-grid inverters for $2k and batteries for $280/kWh. You can probably do better if you look around and don't just listen to the door to door MLM scammers.

  • Pv is now around $30/m2 wholesale and $60/m2 retail.

    Not much more expensive than a sheet metal roof (far cheaper than a mature tree after all the water and tending), but a sheet metal roof doesn't produce $100/yr worth of electricity.

    Tree good. If can't afford tree, then pv obvious choice.

  • You can buy the panels, inverter, racking and a battery which produces more than enough for anything smaller than a mansion for <$10k. Batteries are also not really necessary and can be added later.

    Why are you paying > $20k for someone to put in 60 screws and a piece of conduit?

  • I seem to remember tepco doing something where they cut corners and lied and put the japanese people in danger and cost them $400 billion and then lied about the cleanup and cut corners further contaminating fisheries for 9 years.

    I can't quite remember what that was. Must have been chinese propaganda.

  • Yeah because it's not as if TEPCO would lie to the public about danger they were in. or try to release water that wasn't safe by not planning to have anywhere to store it or fail to filter the way they claimed

    They're definitely trustworthy this time. Anyone who doesn't believe everything they say is just crazy, there is absolutely no reason to not take everything they say at face value. Why are you even checking?

    Realistically this is China playing political games, but it is also Japan playing political games to try and paint all the times they were lying and there was danger (andnall the times they intend to lie) as innocuous.