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  • TLDR:

    Condemns genocide, opening statement then disregards the attack (an act of genocide itself) by a group literally founded to commit genocide that caused the current conflict.

    Long answer:

    Sure, happy to: opening their genocide case by highlighting a genocidal attack by their allies (Hamas in this case), and then dismissing it. And only focusing on your allies' enemy for your argument that is alledgedly based on principal ; it both undermines the credibility of the failed state of SA and their argument.

    This is a country that refused to arrest a criminal wanted for genocide.

    Excusing your allies is contrary to arguing principal (in that a principal based argument isn't selective on whether you like Hamas and hate Israel). It's all sorts of super cringe and transparent what they're doing.

    Hamas, their buddy, and worldnews' darling were literally founded on committing genocide. Their goal is to destroy Israel. Their foundation is a statement of genocidal intent. Their words.

    In the end, it's all academic. The court can't do shit to Israel anymore than the failed state of SA can. ICJ and the ICC are as impotent as all the alt-left kids crying. In reality, this is most likely just propaganda and distraction from SA helping a criminal escape genocide charges.

    Omar al-Bashir had warrants out for genocide, and SA refused to arrest him even though as signatories it was mandatory (back in 2015). They were fine with his crimes of genocide, but then again, he wasn't Israeli. LOL, they do NOT care about the principal.

    To be fair, pretty much everything about the whole thing is cringe. It's just bait for the stupids and the gullibles.

    Though it makes for a good laugh when you look at who the alt-left jumps into bed with.

  • I'd kill for proportional representation and the option of a left NON-capitalist party. The neolibs' only real difference from GOP is that they're not racist and less fascist.

    A Socialist party would be incredible. And though I'd not vote for a communist party, I wish we had one just to balance the national discord.

  • There was a Palestine. It no longer exists.

    There were Palestinian Jews, Palestinian Christians, and Palestinian Arabs. Now, they live in Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Chile, Saudi Arabia, and so on. There is no country called Palestine anymore.

    Facts offending you are funny, though, as is your profanity laden tantrum.

    If you want a bigger breakdown, here is a list of where the Palestinian Arabs went. I assume you only care about the Palestinian Arabs?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians

  • I'm not ignoring you, and you sound very sincere, so I'll draw up a reply when I get back home.

    But spoilers alert: things were definitely not peaceful between the Palestian Jews and Palestinian Arabs pre-Israel or after. There's a long history of violence on both sides, I'll post a bunch when I get back for you to look at, should you wish. And there's no innocent parties here pre or post Israel.

  • I’d love to see Bibi and numerous members of Likud prosecuted for war crimes. Just as I’d love to see Hamas and it’s many war criminals prosecuted for their crimes as well. I think you’re confusing the fact that I believe Israel has a right to exist and to defend itself with blind support. It’s not the same thing.

    I do not approve of pre-Oct Israeli war crimes like the endless collective punishment. Even when there were tens of thousands of war crimes… er… rockets being shot at their citizens by the government of Gaza.

    But I’m definitely hard pressed to find the answer on what to do among all the anti-israel frenzy on Lemmy. All anyone here has is to say “oh it,s okay, just ignore the oct attack, let Israel take it on the chin, they’re stronger and richer.”

    I’d love to see a solution, do you know of one? B/c if Israel just stops like it’s trendy to demand, then Hamas will regroup and go again as they have for decades.

    October 7th has been their greatest marketing of all time. They’re at like 75% support for the Oct 7th attacks, have majority support in Gaza and West Bank. They’re so popular with all the bloodshed they’ve caused that Abbas is going to lose his office. There’s no reason for Hamas to do anything other than continue to seek their publicly stated goal of the destruction of Israel, ever.

    EDIT: Also yes, the charge of genocide is fucking stupid. It belittles and demeans the term and the lose nature with which it’s thrown about around here is extremely offensive.