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Why stop there? "Butt Nut Squash" was right there!

Just anecdotal experience to relate, but the opinion I see most commonly in various threads is that being concerned about SEO and growth metrics and the like fundamentally misunderstands the opportunity the fediverse provides.

At least for me, it's nice to have a corner of the internet where, for the most part, discussions don't escalate to the polemical levels that occur when everyone needs to shout to get a word in edgewise.

I admit that my logic stems from the impulse to gatekeep, but my intent would be that we tend to our gardens, as it were, and let the folks who are seeking that kind of experience filter in at a natural rate. For example, while I don't think that Lemmy needs to juice it's SEO, I do think it would be a good idea to continue to improve the onboarding process for folks that don't give a rip about the tech running their social media.

I'm willing to entertain arguments to the contrary, but I think that this approach encourages growth by improving accessibility, while not overwhelming the aspects of the culture that has gotten folks to stick around here at all. The assumption I'm operating under, and I acknowledge its optimism, is that a person who finds themselves on Lemmy is clearly looking for a different experience than what traditional social media offers them, even if they can't articulate what exactly it is that they're missing from corporate owned platforms.

To that end, I don't think it's necessary to try and ensure our Lemmy beats out Lemmy Kilmeister, who is the singer I'm hopefully correct in assuming people are talking about lol

Eyyy, +1 for Pennywise. That's a band I've not thought about in some time.

Do you have other recommendations from their catalog? This is the only track of there's I think I've listened to.

Ah, I'm a bit younger (in fact I don't believe there's a song on that list that was released after I was born), but I'm a big history geek, and the evolution of genre is a particular fascination of mine, so I have intentionally sought out the music which influenced bands I liked in high school.

I'm sure I've missed out on some killer acts from the era, so hopefully someone who was both alive at the time AND paying attention to the scene will appear and give us both an education.

A tangentially related suggestion for you, if you share my fascination with the context around the art we make (though you are probably well aware if you're an old-head haha), there's an EXCELLENT documentary about the LA hc punk scene that was released during its zenith (arguably) in 1981. Several of the bands I mention in that list appear. It is called The Decline of Western Civilization, and the most convincing argument I can make to get people to watch it is that the LAPD chief wrote an op-ed demanding theaters not screen it.

Yes, though this is a scenario where I'd argue such a reading is a touch overzealous, and is exactly the sort of overreaction that leads idiots to think that calling Musk's Nazi salutes what they are is just pearl clutching. The song is about haters who talk mad shit behind your back, but don't dare say anything to your face. Therefore, "boy" is being used to imply the narrator doesn't consider these people to be "men", as they lack some quality (maturity, courage, whatever) necessary to qualify.

Also, the world changed a lot in the decades between the song's release and 2016. I'm not going to go digging to try and find out exactly how much of a piece of shit Anselmo has been and for how long. Fucker isn't worth my mental bandwidth, so I'm okay with operating on the assumption that, like many, many folks, he was radicalized over time by the rise of the "alt-right" and becoming wealthy. In either case, it doesn't change the fact that I've got no intention of ever financially supporting his endeavors in the future, despite enjoying some of his output in the past.

Further recommendations for your exploration: any band Ian MacKaye has played in. Even if you don't care for his work, he has had an outsized impact on the development of American punk / hardcore (even if he's resisted that attribution). Specific recommendations include:

• Minor Threat - self titled (straight up hc punk)
• Embrace - Building (early emo, when that just meant it was a hardcore song that touched on emotions other than anger)
• Fugazi - Waiting Room, or the 13 Songs album as a whole (post-hardcore, or "hardcore, but we're not afraid to show off that we've learned some music theory")

Okay, with MacKaye given his due, other "classic punk" recommendations include:

• Agent Orange - Bloodstains
• Bad Brains - I Against I
• Black Flag - Fix Me, TV Party, My War
• Circle Jerks - Wild in the Streets, Live Fast Die Young, World up My Ass
• Dead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck Off, California Über Alles, Holiday in Cambodia
• Germs - Lexicon Devil
• The Clash - Straight to Hell, White Riot, Lost in the Supermarket, and many more.
• Operation Ivy - Sound System
• The Descendents - Suburban Home
• Social Distortion - Story of My Life, Mommy's Little Monster
• Buzzcocks - Ever Fallen in Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've)?
• Hüsker Dü - Don't Wanna Know If You Are Lonely, Pink Turns to Blue
• The Replacements - Androgynous, Bastards of Young, Here Comes a Regular, Can't Hardly Wait, Answering Machine, Alex Chilton
• Minutemen - History Lesson Part 2, Corona

Some slightly deeper cuts, more in the proto-emo space than political punk, but they share a lot of musical DNA and I think some of these tracks are underrated.

• Rites of Spring - For Want Of
• The Hated - Words Come Back
• Dag Nasty - Circles
• Gray Matter - Burn No Bridges
• Soulside - Pearl to Stone
• IGNITION - Previous
• Fire Party - Cake
• Samiam - Tired of Waiting
• Fuel - Cue to You
• Drive Like Jehu - Here Come the Rome Plows

That's probably enough for now. I hope you find some stuff you like here.

I listened to Siren Song of the Counter Culture all the way through for the first time since probably 2007 a little while ago, and tbh, there's little on the record I would call filler. Some songs do less for me than others, so I'm not gonna say it meets "All Killer" criteria, but I was surprised by how much I was enjoying the deeper cuts.

In fact, it surfaced an embarrassing memory for me. When "Paper Wings" came on, I was reminded of a little light plagiarism I committed as a shitty 13 year old. We had discussed the use of enjambnent in "The Red Wheelbarrow", and were told to write a poem with an emphasis on structure as much as meter or rhyme. Being (as mentioned) 13, shitty, and confident that Rise Against was not in my English teacher's rotation, I basically just copied and pasted lyrics from that song and incorporated odd line breaks and punctuation.

Had I a modicum of self-awareness at the time, I'd like to think I'd have made different choices, but that's high school, baby!

Oof. Well, I'm disappointed but I refuse to let it ruin my day. I also tend to think that the band saying they had no idea is a stretch, but I empathize with someone who rationalizes away suspected bad behavior of a long term friend. I can't say with 100% confidence that I wouldn't do the same, as long as there was enough plausible deniability. If they disavowed him immediately upon it coming to light, well, I guess that's better than praying for forgiveness and healing or whatever, even if they had thought his behavior was suspect beforehand and not acted on it. Perfect can't be the enemy of good, and I'm just so fucking tired man...

In all honesty, I have no idea how I came across that song. Despite some of the other selections that are also in that mold, industrial metal isn't actually a genre I fuck with that much. I'm open to it, especially as I've continued to get comfortable in some of the less melodic subgenres, but the actual wave of popularity these bands were riding on missed me as a kid and ive come to it later.

I assume that it must have been included in a video game soundtrack of some kind? In fact, as I've been writing this comment, I think it may have been a part of the Brutal Legend soundtrack, and I had all of that stuff on my iPod at the time.

Song do go pretty hard tho, don't it?

I almost don't want to know, especially given what someone else shared with me about Pantera's lead singer; but, given what I'm sure you've inferred from my selection, Anti-Flag was very much in my rotation for a couple of years. So, in the interest of doing the bare minimum necessary to claim I haven't been ostriching the WHOLE time since the election, what revelations have come to light about this guy?

Oh Jesus fucking Christ. Thank you for letting me know, I'll edit that immediately. The worst part is that I've conditioned myself to cope with the news I've just received by listening to Pantera.

Probably a lot of obvious choices on here, but I like to think of it as honoring the classics of the genre, and hopefully there are a few entries which are new to folks.

• Crime Mob - Knuck if You Buck (this goes at the start of the playlist, because, in my experience, playing this to a crowd of significant size will result in hands being thrown somewhere, it is a statistical inevitability)
• Godsmack - I Stand Alone
• Pantera - Walk Phil Anselmo is a Nazi shit weasel and I was unaware.
• Limp Bizkit - Rollin
• Rage Against the Machine - Fistful of Steel
• Lil Wayne ft Eminem- Drop the World
• CKY - 96 Quite Bitter Beings
• DMX - X Gon Give It To Ya
• Ludacris - Get Back
• KMFDM - Free Your Hate
• Aesop Rock - None Shall Pass
• Powerman 5000 - When Worlds Collide
• Static-X - Push It
• DJ Shadow ft Run the Jewels - Nobody Speak
• Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
• Slipknot - People=Shit
• Slayer - Raining Blood
• Holy Fuck - Tom Tom
• Danzig - Mother
• Queens of the Stone Age - You Think I Ain't Worth a Dollar, But I Feel Like A Millionaire (gotta find an edit without the intro tho)
• Mastodon - Blood and Thunder
• Mïngle Härder (formerly Möngöl Hörde) - Blistering Blue Barnacles

Two nautical themed metal/hardcore songs which get me ready to tussle isn't a lot, but it is weird that it happened twice.

• Rise Against - State of the Union
• Coheed and Cambria - Key Entity Extraction V: Sentry the Defiant (with honorable mention to In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth:3 and Welcome Home)
• Chevelle - The Red
• Bullet For My Valentine - Waking the Demon
• Eve 6 - Think Twice
• Hole - Violet
• Dead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck Off
• Smashing Pumpkins - Bullet With Butterfly Winds

That seems like enough brainstorming for now. Hope someone finds something they vibe with.

I agree that a flawed product is typically better fodder for analysis than either something "perfect" or "abysmal", and hey, if the scale works for you, don't let me yuck your yums. You had the courtesy to explain what the ratings mean, which is more than many such systems give you. I think I am simply preconditioned to equate a ten point system as roughly analogous to school grades, e.g. 6 represents the lowest "passing" grade, so I was taken aback by your system.

ETA a minor note for your consideration: pre designating your ratings as 4-7 sort of boxes you in as a reviewer. I think the premise of "I'm going to examine games whose reception was tepid to lukewarm" is valid and interesting. However, your rating scale operates on a preconceived notion that the reception these games received was correct and that, by virtue of your having selected the game for review, it will be a 4-7/10 game. Of course, I'm sure you're willing to color outside of the boundaries of that range if you feel moved to do so by a gameplay experience, but I felt it should be point out that even titling your post "Mid Game Reviews: XYZ" is something of an argument, for better or for worse. I know seeing "mid game" and "dark forces" in the title got me to click, again, because my nostalgia for the game overrides any desire to do an objective assessment (which, to be clear, is a me problem, not you). I'm just imagining a post like "Mid Game Reviews: The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time" and the sorts of response that would evoke, even if your review was "idk how this ended up in my queue, this is a masterpiece 10/10". Do with this perspective what you will.

Correct.

I think they're implying you're making a distinction without difference. OP states the Anti-Federalists opposed the adoption of the Constitution, which was largely modelled after the constitutional monarcy of England. You clarified that they didn't object based on the system's model, but rather on the basis of all centralized government being bad. Their response is basically saying, yeah man, the Anti-Federalists were against centralized government , that's what I said.

I am inferring that OP believes that they had the right of it in the first go, no centralized government is preferable to any centralized government, specifically because of how centralized governance encourages the consolidation of political power into parties.

I'm not nearly well versed in this time period to dissect that argument in detail, but I believe your rebuttal that their plan had been tried under the Articles of Confederation and found wanting, hence the whole debate about the Constitution to begin with, is a fairly succinct counterargument to the position I am sketching out on their behalf (read as: the strawman I have set up).

All of which is to say, I've expended entirely too much mental bandwidth on this interaction and need to go touch some grass for a bit.

Thank you for your review. I disagree with your conclusion wholeheartedly, but I acknowledge the role of nostalgia in my personal estimation of the game.

However, I have to know: why 7-4/10? What purpose does that scale serve, especially if a 7/10 is a game "every gamer should try".

I mean, I get it, you're focusing on "mid" games, so your scale reflects that focus. But, if the top end of your scale is a game you believe should be universally beloved, well, it's not a review of a "mid" game anymore. Unless you think that an 8/10 is a game that not just every gamer should play, but every person. In which case, what is a 9/10, or, God forbid, a 10/10?

In conclusion, a Brennan Lee Mulligan rant about arbitrary points systems.

Cause it doesn't matter if they are still profitable. If you aren't MORE profitable than your last outing, then you aren't growing, and if your business isn't growing, it's dying.

However, I wonder if the premise is flawed here. In 1999, you could probably get a somewhat accurate idea of a game's profitablity by comparing dev cost vs units sold. However, with live service being the AAA fascination du jour, and Call of Duty in particular having a whole game mode siloed off into the free to play space, I question if "units sold" is indicative of financial success anymore.

Out of curiosity, why?

It's been awhile since I played Kotor, but isn't Dantooine just the Jedi Temple, surrounded by a veritable sea of grass, within which Space Hatfield's and Space McCoys are feuding with one another?

Maybe it's cause I live in flyover country, but I could scarcely imagine a habitable planet from Star Wars that I'd want to visit less lol.

The Crow (comic) came out in 89, Spawn was introduced in 93.

And, while all goth movies feature black fashion, black fashion does not make for a goth movie alone. Idk who the Robocop remake was for, but it wasn't goth kids.

How are you defining "soft" in this case? It seems you and I have very different ideas of what that term means, and I'm curious about your perspective.