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Nobody serious is proposing that. Israel has some crazy right wingers but there’s no chance they do that. Unlike Hamas who, if given the opportunity, would eagerly do that to Israelis.

So how is that a genocide then?

What is the other option here other than Israel surrendering to Hamas?

You still didn’t answer my question. What is the other option here for Israel? Hamas backed them into a corner by launching missles from hospitals, schools, mosques, etc.

Hamas wants Palestinians to be killed more than anyone else in this situation. They’re basically daring Israel to attack civilian areas. They are trying to elicit a reaction exactly like the one you are exhibiting. Meanwhile Iran is laughing as they use Palestinians as cannon fodder in order to get people pissed at Israel and the west.

What other option is there for Israel other than just surrendering to Hamas?

You clearly don’t want to be gentle. What is the solution here? If Israel doesn’t defend itself than its residents will continue to be the subject of attacks by Hamas. What other option is there?

What country do you live in that would tolerate constant rocket attacks as well as now terrorist raids from their neighboring territory?

If Al qaeda was based in Canada and they attacked the U.S. should the U.S. continue providing water and electricity to them? What other country bites the hand that feeds and then expects the status quo to remain. Think about that for a minute.

Why didn’t Hamas, instead of building rockets, build a new power plant and water treatment facilities with the millions of not billions of aid that the international community has given in aid to Gaza?

Despite all that guess what - https://www.axios.com/2023/10/15/israel-resumes-water-supply-to-southern-gaza-after-us-pressure

No I don’t mean that story which is of questionable veracity. However are you denying Hamas targeted and killed and abducted children eight days ago? Because they have said so themselves.

What you are calling for is a fantasy. The second Israelis did that they would be wiped out.

I live in reality - and we all need to - if we want this situation to finally come to a peaceful conclusion.

By the way I agree with you regarding the settlements. They are a provocation and moderate Israelis need to stop them and hopefully will once Netanyahu and his rightwing cronies are thrown out of office.

“Throw bombs”

More like launch missles into civilian areas intentionally. You’re really understating the situation.

Also by the way your solution is to just let Hamas continue intentionally attacking civilian targets? What country on the planet would allow their neighbor to do that?

If Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians why is the population of Palestinians growing exponentially?

So were the kids and babies that were intentionally killed and abducted last week by Hamas militants “the oppressors”?

6 million Jews were killed during the holocaust. Nearly 50% of the global population.

How you can compare the two with any sense of rationality is beyond me.

Let’s see what they propose. Or you for that matter?

If Al qaeda was based in Canada and constantly attacking New York what would the U.S. have done post 9/11? Just leave them alone?

The truth is there no good option here. Elimination of Hamas is the only option and it will be bloody for both sides, partially due to Hamas use of Palestinian citizens as human shields. Hopefully after Hamas is removed from power Palestinians can elect leaders who don’t call for the complete annihilation of Israel and Israelis can elect moderates who are open to negotiations as well.

Unless you are among those who think Israel should be dissolved in which case you are not actually interested in a peaceful solution for all sides.

If you took a poll it wouldn’t even be close in terms of Palestinians supporting Hamas’ goal of committing genocide vs American Jews supporting the same against Palestinians. That’s why you don’t see voices of Palestinians in the diaspora calling out Hamas while tons of American Jews are extremely critical of Israel. Apparently it’s racist for me to say that?

Hamas literally is launching rockets from hospitals, schools, etc.

So you’re not interested in a solution that is realistic (ie allows the state of Israel to remain). Guess you don’t actually want peace.

Reading is hard: https://archive.ph/RNiIk

“After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.””

Just so I understand your argument - Palestinians are not Hamas but Israel IS Likud.

How many Palestinians have been protesting globally against Hamas? How many hundreds of thousands of Israelis have been protesting against Likud?

Ah ok so please tell me which middle eastern country is morally superior to the U.S.

I’ll wait.