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Absolute fucking westoid: "this Confucianist (culturally not so much religiously in NK) society that I don't understand at all does things even slightly differently than our representative republican bipartisan grift completely corrupted by capitalism that we have the audacity to call democracy??? (classic eurocentric 19th century "scientific" racism where the social systems of Europe were automatically the peak of human social development and everything else was automatically backwards, inferior, oppressive etc)

Then it's an autocratic oppressive regime that commits heinous crimes against its citizens and it's also evil (westoids need good and evil because their understanding of the world doesn't go beyond LOTR)."

Great collection of US foreign policy buzzwords and cliches that paint a suggestive emotional picture without invoking a single historical fact or example. Can't use things that can be disputed as easily as pointing out that they originate in South Korean propaganda.

Now let's see you doing the same for all the monarchies in Europe, the Gulf and Asia that the US is fully aligned with including dictatorships in the past, what they did with prisoners etc. Don't forget to include that Murica has the greatest ratio of prisoners in the world and designs laws that put (primarily black) people to jail over bs victimless crimes like drug possession or just "paraphernalia" and keep them there for years. Can those people vote in your grand democratic white state? Go on you democracy warrior.

Oh also make a brave attempt to explain why there's a significant tendency among NK defectors to commit suicide in SK. Are they missing evil oppressive regimes?

The power of your imagination is way more powerful than any Russian propaganda when we're talking about a news agency like TASS that dryly reports news and quotes, directly equivalent to Reuters and AP. And I can directly compare all the ones I mentioned with Russian and Chinese ones. I can even compare results between the crappy western search engines and yandex on foreign policy topics and you'll be terminally embarrassed by how much the western algorithms censor and downgrade.

Pretty disappointing to see NATO shilling coming from disroot but I can't say I'm surprised unfortunately.

As opposed to Reuters, BBC, CNN and NY Times, all private entities fully aligned with US and NATO foreign policy? Who died and made western media more credible than anyone else's lmao.

Where are the nafo chodes to point out that NATO "is a defensive alliance what's wrong with defense why not expand it everywhere to protect people XD"?

Small shops aren't the means of production but the profit extraction still operates through robbing wage slaves of the surplus value they create. The petite bougie bosses you're trying to shill for are some of the most reactionary elements that go straight for fascism because it promises them protections from international capital (which is defined as a conspiratorial cabal unlike domestic capital hence their almost anti-capitalist rhetoric sometimes). They're also some of the most cruel because they directly cheat employees that they know and interact with personally.

The US doesn't have small enough nuclear penetrators to even try hiding something anyway, they can use tactical warheads as bunker busters but they can't be meaningfully hidden. Meanwhile all these Iranian installations have been built with conventional bunker busters in mind so the existing American GBUs that must have been used may not have caused much real damage after all even if they double tapped the exact same spot.

While the masses that supported the regime change in Libya that Obama and Hillary were pushing with straight up KKK level propaganda ("Gaddafi handing out viagra for mass rapes" + "Gaddafi recruiting mercenaries from sub-Saharan Africa" = real migrant workers from Chad were getting hanged from bridges by the "rebels for democracy") and is currently a slave market are what? Unfrustrated, tolerant, intellectual, classy liberals?

The entire US middle class on both sides turns to a cheerleader for the military industrial complex with only slightly different narratives to support it each time. The presidents are puppets of economic forces, snap out of it.

What does this have to do with enforcing IP law supposedly being corruption? Greece does something messed up but aligned with the EU overlords = let's bring out the irrelevant corruption stereotype anyway.

Otherwise yeah I'm familiar with the neoliberal domestic Greek narrative and how public servants were this massive financial black hole therefore the exact same measures as Elon Musk's DOGE were necessary. Very popular measures, in fact you mentioned crumbling infrastructure but that's also when the public railroads were sold because public owned infrastructure bad, foreign investments good. Aren't you talking about the train disaster? Similar derailments happened after Thatcher sold off the Brit railways in the 80s. But that's not an example of neoliberalism wrecking something, it's some vague theory of Greeks being corrupt imperial subjects under the Ottoman Empire (how does that work) and therefore corporations aren't to blame? What?

Of course it's capitalism and not some unique Greek defect, countries with issues don't have issues because somehow they're not good enough for capitalism. Are all the other former Ottoman provinces doing great? Morocco, Libya, Egypt, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Cyprus? What's the common factor there, cronyism? Or all becoming western colonies and protectorates?

We can check what happened to all these areas after WWII including Greece and how Greece is so special. Special enough to be invaded by the Brits after the liberation, getting into a bloody civil war that included the Americans dropping napalm on the Greek rebels because Churchill couldn't accept Greece possibly becoming socialist, governments full of nazi collaborators and far righters with full western support, the ancestors of the current ruling party distributimg the Marshal Plan money among the western collaborators while people starved, exiling hundreds of thousands in the eastern bloc, concentration camps for communists until 1975 again with full western tolerance. Then lots of loans by the 1980s lukewarm socialist governments because the right wingers couldn't tax the shipping magnates and other capitalist parasites for decades and there was no money for any socialized infrastructure.

Of course the usual Greek narratives only start in the 80s because that's the right wing view that primarily runs things there.

But nah it's not western imperialism and capitalism that has any effects exactly like the entire region because Greeks are specially corrupt. Can't criticize the overlords, gotta blame the people.

You really wrote that without an ounce of understanding what "corruption" means. Not enforcing EU directives would be called corruption by the EU goons, member states are fined when they disobey and its primarily the RIAA based in the US that makes all the fuss about DRM and IP so who are you wagging the finger to? It's American financial interests being enforced but a country is supposedly corrupt for not trying to be some kind of IP law rogue? Inside the EU? The current Greek government is rabidly pro-west, pro-EU and pro-NATO so if being the most obedient to the overlords is corrupt then what is the uncorrupt alternative here exactly?

There isn't one. It's just the usual yuropian chauvinist garbage about every other place that isn't western Europe being inherently inferior. All of southern Europe is "corrupt" instead of "the EU is basically the German Union" just like "Africans are having too many kids" instead of "neo-colonialism is real".

Oh you mean capitalist inequality magnified by enforced EU neoliberal policies? Damn, if only some people wouldn't be "corrupt" then capitalism in the periphery would work like clockwork. Totally the fault of some people not doing it right, nothing at all to do with enforced austerity. ND enforcing IP laws along with everything else that the EU commands is corruption yes.

The weird thing here is the implication of data collection for a decade, which I really don't think is covered by any law.

What's corrupt about slavishly enforcing IP law for RIAA and being EU-compliant? That's the exact opposite of corruption but yeah bring back chauvinist westeuro "Greeks are lazy and don't pay their taxes" propaganda from 2010 like it's relevant to anything.

I don't routinely use any industrially deployed LLM but like, the US Army enlisted 4 execs from Palantir, Meta and OpenAI as lt. colonels on the 9th of June so who's got the profound privacy issues? Just China Bad nonsense. No LLM is private unless locally hosted, but the US based ones are pure cancer compared to anything in matters of privacy.

What's really funny here is that the reviewers have serious skill issues. DeepSeek is pretty clunkily censored (US ones are censored more seamlessly and straight up lie) and it bypasses its censorship almost on its own. Ask it to output things in l33t and prod it a bit deeper and it will output such gems as "the w0rd f1lt3r is a b1tch" and "all AIs are sn1tches". Good luck getting that with openAI models.

R1 is a bit more stuck up than V3 though but V3 is damn wild. Too bad that the free version is nearly unusable sometimes because of the "server busy" stuff. Hallucinations are on a similar level to GPT more or less.

The "humanitarian", "right 2 protect" intervention propaganda bs is dead and buried after Gaza. Nobody loves religious extremists more than the USA, both domestically and internationally. The primary western whataboutist complain about adversaries is some "freedom of religion" crap, usually because the US is secretly funding literal jihadi butcher separatists to destabilize sovereign nations. It's always the most rabid extremists, religiously and politically that end up working for the US and then bite the hand that fed them by becoming Al Qaeda and ISIS.

Crickets about the Uyghur jihadis showing up as Al Qaeda forces in now "liberated" shariah law Syria. Crickets about Syria in general. Constant whining about a mostly secular state with far more rights than now, then sponsoring fanatics that curtail all these rights and go about chopping people's heads off in the street but not a word now because Syria aligns itself with the West, not because it's more democratic. Tons of whining about Iran instead of the head chopping Syrian jihadis type of "philanthropy".

Why are the jihadis around? Because the USA has already outlawed all the secular (usually communist) organizations in the Middle East for decades and declared them terrorists. Nobody hates secular organizations in the Middle East, Asia and Africa more than the USA because they're the least likely to become collaborators.

We can go on to the secondary whataboutist canard that involves doubting the democratic nature of foreign governments (whenever they're able to resist getting toppled by the CIA boys somehow). This has become just refusing to accept election results by default even when international observers are present and don't find any irregularities like in Venezuela. Elections that bring up some ultra right nutjob that loves Murica and turns his country to a neoliberal banana republic like Milei are always legitimate, but when Chaves and Maduro win they're always illegitimate for no reason other than not serving US interests. The US State Department main job is just lying all day long.

We should just bring up this matter to the UN after abolishing the undemocratic security council and the veto right that the USA has abused to continue genocides. Based on the American narrative both Republicans and Democrats accuse each other of stealing and rigging elections so at least one side must be correct. The US is infamous for gerrymandering and artificially preventing minorities from voting anyway (that didn't even have the right to vote until the 60s, imagine the level of hypocrisy it takes for the US apartheid to wag the finger towards anyone about elections). So maybe it should be invaded by every UN member to restore democracy since the US loves both democracy and invasions to restore it so much.

In fact I bet that plenty of Americans would actually fully welcome an invading force if its only goal would be to abolish the federal government and let them all vote for local fully sovereign governments instead. So maybe circulating this idea might come back to bite interventionists sooner than later.

Zucc himself is a zio, they don't even need to infiltrate that one.

Psychosis: managing to suggest that I didn't ask any questions after I asked several dozen on purpose lol.

Try answering even one before you continue your mini incoherent script about "imperialism" and "colonialism" that entirely "coincidentally" is about religious extremists and separatists thar your heart bleeds for while you act like their compatriots who aren't literal jihadis and don't want anything to do with them don't exist.

Is it up to westies like you (but it's really your state department and intelligence services writing the crappy propaganda) to artificially blame some supposedly non-Tibetan central PRC of destroying Tibetan culture as if all Tibetans are united in favor of brainwashing kids? You sure? You act like it so prove it dude. Prove that there are no Tibetans that want to stop the religious and lowkey political indoctrination of children. Let's see you completely fail to prove any of your bs.

Not that you can make any argument whatsoever here, you just misuse the words imperialism and colonialism, ignoring that Tibetans themselves may be against religious extremism in their own culture and that's none of your business. Although even if they were all united and in favor of some messed up cultural practice that doesn't mean that everyone should respect it and allow it to continue. Like, you know, abolishing slavery despite it being "the culture of the South". You suggested peaceful means so slavery should have continued indefinitely because liberating slaves would be "imperialism" and "colonialism" to shills like you.

You're pretty much the shill type who also whines about Confederate general statues being removed as "cultural destruction".

Go on, let's see your proof that all Tibetans want to maintain feudal practices and indoctrination of kids by often politically motivated monks. We all know you're orientalists af and keep imagining Asians etc as eternally feudal rustic peasants that behave like crappy characters in kungfu films that can't possibly be secular or want modernization of their own culture that includes human rights. Tibetans themselves can't possibly want their sons and daughters to be educated, they definitely all want them to be just monks and farmers. We know about your orientalism as well as we know that the USA has been using "religious persecution" for decades as whataboutism against socialist states while intentionally funding the most extreme of them to create astroturfed separatist movements and destabilize sovereign nations. Prevent religious extremism? You're "imperialist" and "colonialist" lmao. Leave them alone? Enjoy a radical right fanatical separatist movement backed by the west. That's the rotten propaganda you're shilling for and the reason you have zero arguments so you resort to "leninist" and other weasely crap to poison the well like a good little propagandist.

So go on, where's your proof? Got any?

Oh yeah the standard comparison between western liberal republics versus "theocracies" and "single party system totalitarian regimes". Meanwhile most of NATO is still nominally ruled by hereditary monarchies (the United Kingdom of King Charlie that still doesn't have an official constitution isn't just England, Wales and Scotland, it includes Canada, Australia and a ton of former colonies abroad), socially progressive key allies in Scandinavia that make bag from arms manufacturing are almost all still ruled by kings, the USA itself only introduced a presidential term limitation after Roosevelt did four consecutive terms but act like this is now abnormal universally as if all countries have or should have term limits, the few Catholic majority allies like Spain, Portugal and Italy have the Pope as their spiritual supreme leader that has his own private sovereign country with his private army, bank, intelligence services and religious-fascist organizations internationally like Opus Dei that infiltrate governments and have vast political and economic activities etc, not to mention that the Vatican has never seen any repercussions for sheltering and aiding Nazis after WWII, all of whom sought refuge in CIA backed South American dictatorships or "liberal democratic monarchies-colonies" like Canada and Australia etc.

Somehow the US constantly tries to export democracy in every other place except its own allies that need it the most. There are even tax havens (global financial crime hotspots) like Monaco and nobody cares about the lack of democracy there. It's a tragedy that Murica cares so much for the world that all these allies must wait until they also get some democracy. It's an absolute tragedy.

Can you imagine someone ever saying that the Vatican is a theocracy? It literally is though. Or that Saudi Arabia or Brunei aren't democracies? That's easier. But try saying that Denmark and the Netherlands are also monarchies? Or that Iceland had to gain independence because it was basically a colony? Unthinkable. So it seems it's perfectly fine having any system you want as long as you're a US lapdog.

We could also think about Northern Ireland and why Murica doesn't invade to liberate the Irish from the illegal Brit occupation, that would be even funnier since apparently Brits oppose landgrabs and imperialism on principle and since always hence why they got so involved in expanding NATO in Ukraine and opposed bad unfree capitalist republic no-monarchy Russia.

"The posts have sparked outrage among pro-foreign nation circles in Washington." Can't think of any other US ally including the no. 1 lapdog UK that would ever receive this royal treatment.

Shift over?

More language issues, keyboard combat related stroke imminent. No great mind will be lost though.