nekandro @ nekandro @lemmy.ml

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Where's the evidence that Hamas killed thousands of civilians? All we have evidence of is that thousands of Israelis died, but we also know that a good chunk of civilians were killed in friendly fire incidents. In fact, per Israel's own admission, they had to revise down their casualty numbers because bodies they thought were Israeli civilians were actually Hamas. Civilian deaths are supposed to have commensurate military objectives. While that's clearly not been true for Israel's bombing of Gaza, it's far less clear because of how little is known about what actually happened on October 7th.

Videos of Nova show armed personnel amongst civilians opening fire against Hamas. Reports from October 7th include that Israeli tanks fired at Israeli civilians, and that Israel created a blockade for cars escaping Nova. Video from helicopters in the area suggest that nondescript sedans were targeted fleeing the area. News reports at the time suggest that many Kibbutz were heavily armed because of fear of Hamas, and in fact a number of them (particularly those closest to the border) were made up of ex-IDF. These have all been reported on by Israeli and/or Western media.

How many of those "hundreds of murders" were caused by the IDF? How many from people caught in the crossfire? How many were "ex-IDF civilians with guns"? Hamas' objective was pretty clear: take hostages, because that's the only way they've seen that works to put pressure on the Israeli government. Do I have issues with taking civilian hostages? Of course! But that objective is diametrically opposed to going on a mass murder spree. Dead hostages aren't hostages: they're martyrs.

There's no way of knowing what circumstances the hundreds of dead civilians died in because the Israeli government has been covering it up in order to spread propaganda like "40 beheaded babies" and whatnot. That, in itself, should raise red flags.

Am I denying that any civilians died purely at the hands of Hamas? Of course not. Shit happens during conflict, especially when the people you're fighting just spent the past few decades shooting up children at your peaceful protests. You're angry, adrenaline is pumping, and (by the numbers) you probably lost one of your parents to IDF action. What I am denying is that it was systematic behaviour and that Hamas was purely responsible for hundreds of murders.

Hamas, as an organization, does not have a problem with Israeli civilians. Hamas' problem has always been with the Zionist state, the government, and the IDF in support of Zionism. If you've been listening to the interviews of hostages released early in the conflict, you'd see that they're rather positive on the ordeal. Their professed goal was to claim hostages (which they did do, and which we've seen has successfully stirred up discontent with the Netanyahu government). You're claiming that Hamas actually had a second goal, which was to go on a mass murder spree. This is not only diametrically opposed to their professed goal, but also serves to rile up Israeli support for the Netanyahu government. Unless you think Hamas is literally run by room-temperature IQ imbeciles, you should reconsider.

Doesn't really need much lobbying wrt Xinjiang given that no Muslim country opposes China's actions.

Map of countries opposing China's actions (in blue)

Oddly enough, the map is rather similar to this one showing which countries do not recognize Palestine (in grey)

I'd imagine the lobbying is towards key European powers who have shown recent support for Palestine to be more consistent on the issue, which would also explain why the diplomats went to Reuters to report it.

Ketamine, duh.

I mean, we've now had extensive evidence showing that Israel fired on Israeli civilians (e.g. Nova) and extensive evidence that Israel has no issue bombing hospitals (e.g. al-Ahli).

Edit: we also have extensive evidence showing that Israel has no issue firing up on and injuring thousands of innocent protestors.

Hehe it's not terrorism if you call the people you're attacking terrorists.

Doesn't matter if you call them terrorists after the attack, either.

It's not underfunded, it's just obscenely corrupt and with a justice system that neither rewards enforcement nor rehabilitation.

The entire US justice system is "punishing those we catch to discourage those we don't." It's somehow the worst of both worlds.

How is it that this temple went from a fringe Hindu-nationalist idea to something backed by the fucking government?

Democracy at work, everyone.

That's because labour rights movements actually care about the suffering of normal people.

The bourgeois that govern Western democracies don't because they're too far separated from such silly concerns.

"if you don't do it we'll write an even more strongly worded letter"

yeah fuck off EU

Shockingly, not a half-measure.

India supports Balochistan terrorists, Pakistan supports Kashmir terrorists. I guess turnabout is fair play, but it's really an indication of discontent in the population that should be addressed instead of calling out to foreign intervention.

If Artemis lands on the moon before 2030 I'll be shocked. It's fraught with delays and corruption.

The US occupation of Afghanistan served to unseat the Taliban, only for the Taliban to take power immediately after the US pulled out. This is history repeating itself.

You can't unseat an idea.

That was your claim. Thanks for disproving it, I guess?

Might want to read the article, bud.

warmongering pt. 7

Using literally the NATO website to "debunk Russian misinformation about NATO*.

This is "he said, she said" but geopolitics.

It's a war for Moscow that nobody outside of Moscow cares about? At least Moscow hasn't completely decimated the demographic pyramid of Russia.

They had a peace deal laid out in front of them. That peace deal was orders better than the status quo today, nevermind where the war will be a year from now.

Despite Taiwan's charter stating very clearly that they are the rightful government of China, the people there identify as Taiwanese.

Oh, oops, I don't think I'm supposed to find contradictions.