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  • @theunknownmuncher @Samueru Like Russia placing nukes in Cuba guaranteed we wouldn't invade it?

    The thing about not being willing to learn from history is that you are then destined to repeat the same mistakes.

  • @lily33 @theunknownmuncher The best way we can help Ukraine is by removing outside influences from both sides. What is being portrayed as a war in Ukraine is really a proxy war between Russia and the US that was egged on by the US. This is most unwise given that both nations are armed to the teeth with nukes. We really should be looking at ways to de-escalate not escalate this war.

  • @Samueru @davel Is there something about people from lemmy.ml that makes them only capable of insults as opposed to rational discussions?

  • @theunknownmuncher I don't justify genocide, I acknowledge ALL conflicts involve at least two sides, and to punish only one of those sides is to take part in said genocide rather than oppose it.

  • @bunitor That would be my take. My take is that as individuals we are were international cooperation needs to begin, it isn't going to happen with our governments, at least it never has historically.

  • @CaptDust @davel When you need to resort to insults like this it's a clear sign you've lost the argument.

  • @bunitor I'd agree, but on this same basis with all the conflicts in the world you'd have to expand this to about 99% of the globe.

  • @theunknownmuncher Your timeline doesn't go back far enough and I notice you completely ignored the bit about Eastern expansion of NATO and what the United States promised Russia.

  • @theunknownmuncher And I could give countless other examples of other countries. I don't agree with the war, but I also know if we hadn't installed Zelenskyy and if the United States had honored our promise to Russia not to extend NATO past East Germany, then it would not have happened. So I understand that it is hardly one sided on Russias part. If we didn't fund Ukraine, if we didn't offer them membership in NATO, none of this would have happened. And I'll add if the Ukraine and Russia did not have large oil reserves and some other precious minerals, the United States would be a lot less interested in them. But that's all in the past. Now, you and I can disagree with each other and we can disagree with what our governments do, but if we want to build a better world it has to happen through the cooperative efforts of citizens NOT governments because the latter just historically a lot less likely to happen. So I can't see this move as at all productive towards ending this particular war or world peace in general, I see it as quite the opposite.

  • Those nasty Russians might reveal or remove some of our back doors.

  • @Midnight If Russia were the only one involved, and if weren't provoked by outside powers like say, oh, the United States, yea I could agree with you but my knowledge of history precludes my accepting that explanation.

  • @theunknownmuncher The US has been involved in probably 300 regime changes throughout the world, has invaded many countries, including those that we were not affiliated with. Russia invades a neighboring country when we install a leader that is going to allow us to put missiles on their border. I really hate to see political hegemony get in the way of a good collaborative effort, we all suffer for it if we allow this.

  • This is a shame, I always thought Linux was supposed to be an International collaboration, hate to see it caught up in this bullshit political agenda.

  • @zwekihoyy Yea I've heard that excuse but on the Internet there are infinitely more Linux servers and still Windows is more often compromised. I think it has more to do with thousands of eyes on the code submitting bug reports and fixes.

  • @sunisra Great, what OS are you running, what release? I'm on Ubuntu-Mate 24.04, did not have issues with 22.04, but Thorium is working fine on 24.04.

  • @KickassWomen It is primarily maintained by them but it is an open sourced project and there are other contributors. But whatever, if you find something that doesn't involve Google and still properly functions and doesn't do slimy tactics like replace a vendors ads with it's own, AKA Brave, I'm interested, in the meantime I need something that at least functions which Firefux ceased to do.

  • @sunisra @KickassWomen You can run Firefox as flatpak, snap, or you can use the Mozilla repository and install as .deb package. However no matter which way you use it, the video is broken on some Youtube videos, Bitchute has no audio, and Netflix won't play at all, which is why I switched to Thorium.