mwguy @ mwguy @infosec.pub

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Surprised it's not higher. Gaza's government has spent $0 on defensive technologies. Zero radar installations, zero anti-aircraft weapons, zero SAM, zero bomb bunkers.

Specifically who?

How much more angry can they get? Like they're angry enough to behead children, and cheer raped corpses through their streets. What more do they have to offer?

Admit, to allow to enter.

Would you force Germany to admit a Nazi if they were sick?

Indiscriminately bombing civilians and civilian infrastructure is a war crime.

Israel clearly isn't indiscriminately bombing Gaza.

If we look at stats from before October, the loss of lives is clearly on the Palestinians side to a much higher degree. If we look at since October, it's the same.

That should be expected since only one side spends money on defensive technology. Hamas has been complaining about Israeli air strikes since it came to power. It's spent billions on unguided rockets and ripping up infrastructure. But it's built zero bomb shelters for it's people, even admonishing civilians trying to use the built tunnels for shelter. It's installed zero radar systems. It's purchased zero anti-aircraft guns. It's done absolutely nothing to protect it's citizens and continues to start new wars.

Why would we expect the death tolls to be equal? That's like me, an American complaining that healthcare in America isn't available for everyone like it is for Canadians and demanding that Canada fix that problem.

Without the country who will protect the people who live there?

I don't think that goal this time is to evict Palestinians from Gaza. I think the goal is simply to try to get a "new deal." Most terrorist organizations aren't as evil, incompetent and aren't as ridiculous as Hamas is. I mean imagine how much better Gaza would be with a Taliban-esque leadership group in charge. Or even just a leadership group physically located in Gaza.

Like how many jihadists can really be left in Gaza? At some point, they've got to run out of these idiots.

The headline implies otherwise.

It's ironic there's a commentary right above you arguing that Israel could get Peace by simply offering a two-state solution we're both States exist.

At this point if Israel goes away it be genocide. There's whole generations of people that were born and raised in Israel. There's really nowhere for those people to flee to where they'd be safe other than maybe the US.

You know, Israel could single handedly dismantle Hamas non violently by accepting a two state solution where the two sides work together for mutual benefit.

That's news to Hamas.

Honestly, at this point there aren't any other options. Because the last major conflict in the region was 5 years ago in 2018, there was a real feeling around the world that Hamas/Gaza had "turned a corner" and was open to living in peace with its neighbors. That's why you had seen rising calls from the West, even the US, calling for a freeze on new settlements in the West Bank. And there was a real hope that maybe covid had "reset" the expectations of both sides in the same way that the end of the Cold War seemingly had.

But it looks like Hamas had no intention of that. Instead they unleashed an attack and had five years of rocket build up behind it instead of the normal two. At this point I don't know how many more times we need to Hamas the show that it's uninterested and even the ideal concept of peace. Even Hezbollah, in southern Lebanon, a fellow terrorist organization; seems to have the ability to respect a border with Israel. So at this point yes tearing him off down even with the understanding that a new terrorist like organization might take its place is preferable to the status quo. Because there is a reasonable chance that even a new terrorist organization could respect a border, and not attack its neighbors. And honestly if a Taliban-esque group ends up taking over it probably be a better outcome for the day-to-day of Gazans. That's f***** up as that is.

Would more likely make them willing to commit actual genocide.

They don't. They're working.

Talk to their military backers in Iran. Iran has them, they choose not to give them.

Additionally, you know that Hamas would intentionally hit civilian targets in Israel with guided munitions right?

Thousands more would die in the next war for hoatages if they're allowed to be viable. Long term, peace on the '67 borders is the only way to minimize total casualties.

Hamas has proven over the last 20 years that it will continue to attack Israel no matter what. It's proven that it doesn't care about the lives of Palestinians.

The implication being that the only people firing unguided munitions in Gaza is Hamas.

Iron Dome isn't an AA system, it's not SAM. It's not going to stop airstrikes. It stops unguided munitions, and it does so after the munitions have reached their apex.

The iron dome doesn't work fast enough to take out Hamas's failed rockets safely.

No, but the did kill a lot of them intentionally and have stated their goal is to do so again and again until all the Jews are dead.

The working class doesn't go to rallies.