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That's part of what I meant. Even the length that they admit to doesn't cover the full extent of their real intent.

When they are forced to under oath sure but the scope of their malice extends to not just the people they hate but anyone that will interact with them or even engage in commerce with them.

The tabooness of the fetish isn't what he's talking about but rather the personality of the person with the fetish.

I think that's insufficient anymore if we are considering the right's usage of the word. Marketing or selling products to those groups counts as woke to the right.

That all hinges on a pretty big "could".

I mean in your hypothetical their options would be to either spend effort to send you something worthless or not spend the effort and experience zero difference on their end.

I think Theo had made it clear they gave no idea what materialistic means.

It's sad but it was also perfectly well known at the time that that's exactly how it works.

I didn't call you that but your responses do lend some credibility to the notion. If you don't want to be taken seriously fine, I don't really care

Nah I was trying to help ya but it sounds like you might be closer to the mind set that I was trying to help you not sound like.

So is the lethal limit you are referencing the LD50? If you link the studies I can look into it a bit. If you are making the case that this is all safe and normal then why was the kid going to die from drinking bleach otherwise?

Is the lethal limit the LD50? 1 in a billion is a very favorable statistic to choose.

That's cool man if you want to keep sounding like a dime store Don Quixote. The adversarial subtext of your phrasing will make the majority of people ignore you and will taint the perception of whatever you cite.

You'd be taken a lot more seriously if you dropped the "admission" phrasing.

I think you are missing a few common sense points here. When since the inception of the country did manufacturers start using chemical processes to artificially spice foods to orders of magnitude higher than what naturally occurs? This is a new process and a new problem. If the FDA made limits to access of spicy food it wouldn't be all spicy foods and it wouldn't be all levels of spice. There would be no large protests because the actual amount of foods impacted would be miniscule. I respect that spice is an important part of culture and identify but I think that because it is a part of your identity you are not taking a clear objective look at it. Addressing this problem isn't an all or nothing situation, it's just the unnatural new extreme products that are the issue.

I still can't tell if you are just fucking around again or if you are sincerely saying that I think I'm exceptional. I think you lost track of that thread too. You should consider being honest and straightforward in conversations instead of this convoluted ambiguous fucking around.

So I'm not ascribing it to the entire group, that's an unfounded leap on your part. Majority doesn't mean entirety. Give "history of American exceptionalism" a Google. This isn't some fringe idea. So again not bigotry. It's a real wide spread thing.

So we come back to the point that American exceptionalism was a huge part of America's messaging and something that the majority of them believed and didn't question at the time. Hell large portions of Americans believe that still. That's real. It was baseless bragging and self promoting most of the time. Or are you referring to something else? Responding to that arrogance with the same measure of disrespect or scoffing openly at the claims isn't bigotry. Make sense?

Believe what things?

Which if you take the unreasonable stance that making fun of Americans for bragging for decades is bigotry makes sense. But I still can't tell what you actually believe. I assume that you were not being serious when you used a circular definition for labeling me a braggart but that's a risky assumption. I'm guessing that you are being disingenuous and trying what you think is a clever rhetorical method of being insulting to me for being an American so that you can bait me into saying that you yourself are being a bigot. It really is hard to distinguish your fucking about from what you really believe.