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No you didn't. That doesn't make your supposed point that the people that did the torture directly deserve more time in jail than him. You took a weird stand at a weird time and communicated it very poorly the whole way through.

The start of the conversation seems to be someone saying that what he did was fucked up and he deserves more than 5 years for it. Then you wanted to make a distinction about his role in the torture for entertainment industry. If your point was that the people committing the torture directly should receive longer sentences than him then you did just about the worst job possible to convey that.

No one is saying that's not true. You are not making a point there. Connecting the people willing to do it to the people willing to view it increases demand and increases the occurrence.

Making doing a bad thing easier makes the bad thing happen more. This is a really simple concept.

This type of comment always really bothers me. You are misrepresenting what is being compared. It's not running chatrooms that is being judged. It's facilitating and organizing the creation and distribution of animal torture content. If he was running chatrooms about my little pony no one would care. Framing it as running chat rooms is dishonest. Flying planes isn't bad. Flying planes into buildings is. Say out loud the part you are trying to to minimize.

Yes verbally. It wasn't directed at me but I was present when it was said with sincerity.

Who's we? I've met plenty of bigots that have voiced that exact threat.

You just made that up.

Serious question if you know you don't engage with discord deeply why do you think anyone here should care about your pointless question?

Neat. A news source and a user I can safely forever ignore.

I'm with you on my ambivalence regarding swift and I also couldn't help but notice the lack of thought occurring in OP's shower.

Why is it a stupid fucking dock?

I think you meant lop, not lob. At least I hope vets aren't yeeting pet testicles.

Ah so "privatization" in the sense that it's still government controlled but not at a national level and the type of state control they are aiming for is more akin to the abusive traditional privatization by corporations?

In this context what do you mean by state privatization?

That doesn't matter. The hypothetical presented by OP has already established the assumption that a robot can suffer.

I'll pile on the confirmation bias for sh.itjust.works being full of either awful or idiotic users. Not all of them and maybe not even most of them but enough of them that it's left a very noticable impression.

I dunno. From ABCDE's comments and Demi's lyrics I was reading the conversation as being about the latter. I didn't really see anyone making the case that Wilmer wasn't being a creep.

I'm not moving the goal posts. Read vaultboy's post. Of the four sentences (if we ignore the apparent typo) three of them focus only on the age gap. The other establishes the premise of grooming and mentions the age gap again. Vaultboys point never addresses a 17 year old's capacity to consent. Vaultboy makes a case that the age gap is objectionable. That is a valid point, it's just not the one that they thought were making.