But we have got people to agree on everything from what is a fair defense against defamation, right through to the percentage of meat a product such as a meat pie has to contain in order for it to be able to be labelled "meat".
Democratic consensus is something that gets built up and refined over time. We don't try to invent it all in a single day.
I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government.
Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low.
It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government.
Defamation, intellectual property, stalking/threats, harmful digital communications, false advertising, accurate declarations of food contents, protected names, conspiracy to commit serious crimes: all these forms of speech are regulated by law and the judiciary where I live, so I have no problem with hate speech laws as long as they are clear and reasonable.
Personally I am in favour of proportionally representative democracy with a lot of checks and balances to enshrine human rights in law, so that if a populace wavers toward the hateful there are still protections for minorities and the non-hateful.
It is a tempting proposition to let the state handle hateful speech, but we don’t have to look much further than Florida to see what happens when the shit side is in power
You seem to be suggesting that separating hate speech prevention from legislation will protect you from a "tyranny of the majority" situation.
But if the populace has a bigoted plurality, won't that also create a tyranny of the majority?
I agree with this. I'm curious too, so in my naive youth in the 90s I did things like reply to scammers, invite JWs in to tell me about their religion, and even let a scientologist try to audit me.
Nothing bad happened because I was curious about them, but not relying on them to give me the answers.
The mokomokai are from the 19th century and were most likely created to meet demand from Europeans. It really annoys me that they refuse our national museum's request to repatriate them.
I don't think the British would like it if we had some of their great great grandfathers' heads.
We kind of have this where I am, insofar as we sign a consent for one doctor to take charge of it (it's ours and we can have copies) and then we can sign in online to see notes and test results, etc. But when I see someone else I have to get copies of their notes sent to my doctor's surgery for them to link to my file. I can't add to it myself, only make requests.
Yes I'm amazed POLI is a thing (and used by govt agencies no less). The first time I tried to use it I noped out of there as soon as it asked for my password. Wft.
That's a fair point.
But we have got people to agree on everything from what is a fair defense against defamation, right through to the percentage of meat a product such as a meat pie has to contain in order for it to be able to be labelled "meat".
Democratic consensus is something that gets built up and refined over time. We don't try to invent it all in a single day.