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  • One of the pillars that the republicans keep claiming is that they will sell everyone out for the sake of businesses, and therefore, obviously, they will make the numbers go up better than those democrats that will sap money out of the economy to pay for useless stuff like basic human needs to those that need it.

    Now you have a republican president who has:

    • Not cut any taxes
    • Imposed way more taxes
    • Tanked the markets
    • Tanked so many government benefits

    It was already provably false (going back 30 years, the only prolonged 'numbers go down' have been both of Bush Jr's terms and Trump's second term), the best republican term was Trump's first and it's no better than any democrat term for the past 30 years.

    So there are some people who are either fine with the racism and sexism (or don't believe/in denial about that as made up) for the sake of better personal financial fortune, and democrats have never convinced those folks that republicans actually don't have any track record to support that superstition. Trump has at least proven that he isn't good, and worse he is allowed to unilaterally act by a broader party that is afraid to conflict him.

  • Not sure. There's a full blown white male military guy I know through work. He's an openly hateful and racist person. Like not even pretending he isn't. He still is pissed at Trump over being incompetent and disrespectful to soldiers.

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  • But his particular sore loser attitude didn't kick in until he lost the 2020 election. In fact in 2016 he was high on accusing Clinton of being a sore loser, for no particularly good reason. He loved calling out a sore loser until he lost.

    He had plenty of bad behaviors, but being a sore political loser wasn't one of them at that point.

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  • It's at least fair to point out that he didn't donate $25M, but he did donate $2M. I'm half surprised that Musk or someone didn't accuse Soros of buying the election with zero whiff of irony.

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  • In practice, I don't see how I would even know someone is a pedophile if they didn't act on their inclinations. I guess they could publicly declare it but that seems unwise.

    I would be concerned if the Internet vigilantes ran with unsubstantiated rumors, like if say Elon musk just called someone a pedophile or of the blue.

  • This thread has been inundated with links to the commenters. Maybe you could take umbridge with the use of the word "communist", but largely that's a label they assert for themselves, and most criticism of them ignores the communist part, since that doesn't even in theory align with Russia, and is beside the point even for China.

  • The comment said point blank that China does slavery and colonialism. For wars, they refer to recent history and that's largely accurate in recent history (at least directly, indirectly they supply and offset Russian military presence), they haven't used direct military force to get what they want yet. Largely because people would just give them pretty much whatever they wanted for economic considerations. Biggest potential place for things to boil over directly would be if they finally went into Taiwan.

  • Ironically, in Linux, if I ever see a Terminal, it's because I opened it. If I'm doing stuff in GUI, terminals never pop up.

    In Windows, doing stuff in GUI a blank terminal opens up and goes away during GUI interaction, or while executing background tasks occasionally.

  • Like I get and appreciate the CLI and for networking, that's pretty much all I'm using anyway, but I am shocked that enterprise networking doesn't even bother to do any GUI. Once upon a time Mellanox Onyx bothered to do a GUI and I could see some people light up, finally an enterprise switch that would let them do some stuff from a GUI. Then nVidia bought them and Cumulus and ditched their GUI.

    There's this kind of weird "turn in your geek card" culture about rejecting GUIs, but there's a good amount of the market that want at least the option, even if they frankly are a bit ashamed to admit it. You definitely have to move beyond GUI if you want your tasks to scale, but not every engagement witih the technology needs to scale.

  • While you don't need to memorize button locations and menus, the frustration is that it takes longer, and memorizing those details slightly mitigates. It's torture helping someone do something while they hunt for the UI element they need to get to the next level of hierarchy. They will do it, in time, but it just feels like an eternity.

    The main issue in GUI versus CLI is that GUI narrows the available options at a time. This is great, for special purpose usage. But if you have complex stuff to do, a CLI can provide more instant access to a huge chunk of capabilities, and provide a framework for connecting capabilities together as well as a starting point for making repeatable content, or for communicating in a forum how to fix something. Just run command "X" instead of a series of screenshots navigating to the bowels of a GUI to do some obscure thing.

    Of course UI people have generally recognized the power and usefulness of text based input to drive actions and any vaguely powerful GUI has to have some "CLI-ness" to it.

  • I suppose the point is that the way people interact with GUIs actually resembles how they interact with CLIs. They type from memory instead of hunting through a nested hierarchy to get where they were going. There was a time when Desktop UIs considered text input to be almost a sin against ease of use, an overcorrection for trying to be "better" than CLI. So you were made to try to remember which category was deignated to hold an application that you were looking for, or else click through a search dialog that only found filenames, and did so slowly.

    Now a lot of GUIs incorporate more textual considerations. The 'enter text to launch' is one example, and a lot of advanced applications now have a "What do you want to do?" text prompt. The only UI for LLMs is CLI, really. One difference is GUI text entry tends to be a bit "fuzzier" compared to a traditional CLI interface which is pretty specific and unforgiving.

  • In a pretty high end high tech company, there's still lots of people who see a terminal and think "ha hah, they are still stuck in old mainframe stuff like you used to see in the movies".

    My team determined long ago that we have to have two user experiences for our team to be taken seriously.

    A GUI to mostly convince our own managers that it's serious stuff. Also to convince clients who have execs make the purchasing decisions without consulting the people that will actually use it.

    An API, mostly to appease people who say they want API, occasionally used.

    A CLI to wrap that API, which is what 99% of the customers use 95% of the time (this target demographic is niche.

    Admittedly, there's a couple of GUI elements we created that are handy compared to what we can do from CLI, from visualizations to a quicker UI to iterate on some domain specific data. But most of the "get stuff done" is just so much more straightforward to do in CLI.

  • It's worth a shot, but by and large the more reasonable conservatives are generally no where near those communities. Certainly the moderation of those communities are fanatic about Trump. The conservatives that you might have hoped to call Trump on his stuff have calculated that they can't afford to challenge Trump even if they personally think he is in the wrong. The ones that have calculated otherwise have been pushed out of the conservative community.