TheHiddenCatboy @ jhymesba @lemmy.world

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OK. This topic is a bit concerning. All from 2021 to 2024, Trump bitched and moaned how the election was stolen from him. He's poisoned the well of electoral politics by making anyone who questions the results of an election look like a crazy person.

This youtube video shows something very concerning about election results in 2024, and also questions 2020. Not in the way of screaming, but with numbers and analysis. But if they saw issues with 2020's vote count, which favoured Trump in later counting and amounted to what some have called a "Russian Tail", it would have been better to bring that up in 2021, and get investigators into actually auditing the vote and punishing the perpetrators. They waited until now, and now, if we point out that Trump rigged 2024 and rigged 2020 but not by enough, then we just look like sore losers.

But we need to have this discussion and be willing to fight to hold Trump accountable, even if we DO look like sore losers. But we need to get to the numbers quickly, because I suspect the shitgibbon has plans around April or May to do an authoritarian power grab of epic proportions.

Let's put it this way. I have been shadow-banned on Reddit. Got an e-mail saying my account appeared to be hacked after I responded to an apparent call for violence with an observation that we're generally not violent as a group but as time goes by, things might change, and a warning that you have to be careful with what you say because Reddit has a rule against calling for violence. I did the steps to secure my account, but while the message wenty away, I have verified that all my comments disappear into the ether. Sure seems like a ban there.

And now, you can be banned for even LIKING a call for violence? And Reddit's admins basically black-hole you if you have support questions of any kind. So, you like someone saying, say, "If this crap keeps going on, I might need to do something more than holding a sign, if you know what I mean," and some Reddit power-tripper with a hardon for Trump clicks the 'ban ur account' button, and then you are stuck in read-only mode in reddit.

If you truly believed this, you'd not be here. You'd come here in 40 days to poke fun, but you'd not bother with us because you know that the effect will be zero. That you're here tells me that you, or much more likely your masters because you don't have an original thought in your mind, are afraid that this will actually get momentum and affect Target's stock price and sales figures. Thanks for the vote of confidence! Let's get boycotting!

Exactly this. Russia doesn't have to do a lot of work here. Most of this bullshit is home grown. Russia just amplifies it.

You see, I don't have a problem with that. When you step over the line like you have multiple times here, you deserve to get called out for it and your comment removed. What I have a problem with is the uneven application of the rule. He's stepped out of line too, which means his comments should be removed just like yours are being removed. I'd respect the mods a whole lot more if they'd cut both sides down to size, rather than just muzzling the Left.

Riiight.

You are not the final arbitrator of what a personal attack is. The mods are. Just because you say you are being attacked doesn't mean you are. It just means you can't handle your ideas being criticised. And trust me. The mods ride us lefties far harder than they ride the people coming in here to spread right-wing ideas. Look at how long it took them to deal with Universal Monk, and how many of our comments got muzzled for daring to try to correct him.

Bye now. I don't want to risk attracting them to me again. :|

If you feel you're being attacked, report the attacks, and the mods MAY remove them. They ride us on the Left far harder than they ride the people coming in from outside and pushing conservative memes like the idea that Zelensky is incompetent here in this channel. Maybe you'll get a few of us silenced. :)

Right. If you believe this, I really can't help you. It's like you watched a different video than I did. Trump and Vance lied like fucking rugs in this, and baited the fuck out of Zelensky. But gotta keep that decorum to satisfy some rando on the internet. I'd love to say what I find you to be, but the mods would come down on me like they should be coming down on you for your other comments. But looking at your downvotes compared to downvotes to what you're replying to? I think that stands on its own. ;)

I have. I'm just holding you to the same standards as you are holding Zelinsky to, and also testing the Mods out to see if they'll equally apply the rules about personal attacks, too.

Forever is a long time, but there needs to be consequences for Trump's behaviour. It would be unwise to rely on the USA after this. Establish trade relationships with other countries, and don't outsource your defence to the USA.

Nice personal attack.

I'm sorry. A lie should be called out immediately, not allowed to be inserted into the discussion by the awful shithead delivering said lie. What you're asking Zelinsky to do here is fight with both hands tied behind his back, for 'decorum'. That's bullshit and you know it. Zelensky called Trump and Vance out on their bullshit. I don't think he gives two shits about some rando on the internet and their belief on what the 'proper' way to deal with Trump's bullshit is. IMO, he did what he had to do, And now he needs to pivot away from the USA for support because we did the awful thing and elected the Shitgibbon TWICE.

Today is also a great day to learn about the small mom and pop operations in your town or city, and divert a few dollars of your spending to them. Today's a great day to take leave from your work, take a bus or bike into work, carpool with someone else, or otherwise not use gas. It's a great day to go out into nature or hang out with friends, not to consume, but to just live. You can't zero out your upkeep today, but maybe you can reduce it by spending smartly. To me that's what today's blackout is meant to do: not hurt Amazon and Walmart and Tesla, but learn the smart ways of doing things. IMO, at least.

For the hard core trumper, I'm absolutely sure you're correct here. The Shitgibbon's merry band of miscreants won't change, and his vote floor is likely in the 70m range. As I like to say, there are an awful lot of very awful people in this country.

What I hope changes is the narrow band of people who voted Trump because they bought the propaganda that the alternative was worse (and will now see that the leopards are gonna eat their faces and not just 'other people's' faces...), the narrow band of people who voted Third Party, and the WIDE band of over 90 million people who stayed home in the most consequential election in their lives. Maybe 2 years of this utter shitshow will push the votes for Team Blue back into the 80+m range. Assuming we have an election in '26 and '28, of course!

The only problem is I don't trust the Democrats to actually do the right thing between 2026 and 2032. They have a bad habit of making incompetent decisions when they're in power. Can't upset the Korporate Kampaign Kash cart, can we? And thus I expect people to stay home in 2030 and 2032, again, enabling the GQP again.

You might be right, but my question here is: Has it really had time to sink in yet? They got their student aid in January when Biden was still in office. Some of them may have lost jobs, but for the most part, there hasn't been enough time yet for the leopards to come around for their faces. And Newsweek HAS posted overly optimistic articles saying the Dems have this in the bag. Granted, we won't know the actual outcome until 2 years from now, but I am thinking the shitheads will just blame Dems, DEI, or whatever other BS to avoid realising that it's their own leopard eating their face.

Honestly, I think the author did the most important task of all -- exposing this to daylight. Let's face it. For at least the next 2 years, and probably for the next 4, and maybe even beyond, this is what the government is going to do. Unless and until we can replace Republicans with Democrats and take back control of the country, this is what we're getting. This is what 77mln people voted for. This is what 90+mln people voted for by not voting. And 2mln people voted third party, which was also a vote for this indirectly. And Trump does have the right to implement the agenda he was elected on, of course, within the guidelines of the laws.

I suspect there's illegality here. But it has to be proven. This is a good way to prove it -- leak all orders, especially the ones that smell of illegality. Then trust Democratic AGs to bring court cases and hope that the worst of it gets tied up in legal limbo until we can finally flush the Republicans. By reporting this bullshit, this worker has enabled that to happen. We'll see what comes from it.

The problem is you get the NDP/Liberal vs. Conservative effect when you do this. If you have 30% of the population vote for your Leftie, and 30% vote for the other Leftie, in a given congressional district, the Republican can win with 31%, despite 60% voting against the Republican. We need RCV before we can do this, and people need to understand that they MUST put the other party as choice 2 or we are back to ending up with a Republican.

You want to bury the image of Trump being a Nazi shithead? Why for would you ever wanna do that? Your above stated answer rings hollow because you can just RTFA.

Let me put it to you this way.

If we really cared about people in the country illegally, we'd aim for having people who hire these people under the table, also illegally, sanctioned. If you were honestly wanting to see less illegal immigration, you'd be deterring them from ever coming in by drying up the supply of under-the-table, low-paying jobs that attract them here. Maybe by advocating for a 10 x median annual salary for every undocumented worker found on your staff, enforced strongly?

If you can't find it in your soul to do that, then all you're here for is smashing disadvantaged people in the face.

Fair point. I did misread 'one on one' to mean Democrat vs Republican with 'stepping back' to mean viewing Third Parties.

I totally agree with your reasoning, as it was my reasoning. The guy is old, not a debate. He's a gaffe machine, too. Some people pushed the meme he was losing a step, but while I saw him as old, I didn't see him as washed up or senile. The guy just doesn't know how to NOT put his foot in his mouth (I share a lot in common with him on that regard!!!), and there were an awful lot of bad-faith actors saying that he wasn't just old, but senile as well. They're still around, saying he's too old and senile to run the show now, and he should resign.

I think how Harris is being treated by various people on and offline should be a key indicator that Biden's resignation wasn't the end of the bullshit factories. They each have their own desires for their choice of President, and they can't even agree with each other who that choice is. Some will scream for Sanders. Others will scream for Stein. Some particularly pigeon-holed ones will argue for Fruit, despite her being mathematically eliminated from 270 before the first vote is cast. And lets get real. There are all to many of them who will tell you "IMMA FOR JILL" or some other tiny Third Party candidate while actually wanting Trump. Some think that a Trump presidency will lead them to the Progressive Promised Land. Others...are here to ensure we're so busy infighting that we can't put a unified resistance up, so they can get the Handmaiden's Tale they desparately want.

If Biden gave up because America is dumb, I don't blame him. In 2016, I tried hard to get out and get to Canada or New Zealand. But now Canada and New Zealand are overrun or about to be overrun by dumb people too. :|