When we're just casually disregarding pesky things like definitions, how can you actually expect any form of genuine conversation to take place? You're playing pretend from the start.
"approached" - you seem to be performing Olympic-tier stretching to reduce this aggressive harassment and intimidation to "approached".
This is incredibly disingenuous - it's hard to take anything you say seriously through such. It's also clear you aren't actually here for any form of conversation, aren't here to understand what happened as shown by video and conclude from that, and are instead here to just shill your anti-firearm point of view.
9mm can penetrate well into human flesh and beyond
So can .22lr - that didn't mean it's probable or likely. Even FMJ aren't likely to over-penetration a center mass hit, and once more, so long as one is observing the rules of firearm safety, even over-penetration is meaningless.
Given the restraint shown, I have no reason to doubt the person took this into consideration.
You shouldn’t go “pew-pew” when every shot you miss can hit an innocent bystander.
Heck, even a shot that you don’t miss, can go all the way through and hit someone totally innocent on the other side.
You seem like someone who has absolutely no understanding of firearms and ballistics.
Assuming one follows the rules of firearm safety, including know your target and what is beyond your target, there's no risk to bystanders. This person was clearly not firing wildly. This was a 9mm from a short barrel - there's no real danger of over penetration.
If one abstains, there is no impact: Either candidate has 50/100 = 50%.
If one votes Candidate C, there is no impact: Candidate A and Candidate B are now both at 50/101 = 49.5%.
There is no spoiler.
It’s no coincidence. This is the means by which the establishment perpetuates itself. Doesn’t mean both parties are the same.
Sure, and I'm not saying both parties are the same.
I'm saying one isn't obligated to vote for Party A for them merely being less awful than Party B - that doing so perpetuates the awfulness of either party; that trying to convince voters to do so is to perpetuate the awfulness of a given party.
That particular user likes to ignore the actual linguistic and cultural analysis behind that amendment in favor of a rich history of interpretations of the amendment as some sort of explanation for what it meant, which is a bit like trying to explain the origins of Christianity through reference to only the New King James version to the complete and intentional neglect of the OG Hebrew.
I wish you the best of luck in reasoning with one so insistently unreasonable.
Then the question still applies: in what way would a spoiler increase the count of either establishment candidate? My understanding of basic math is that it cannot.
It would be more irrational, because if the “shoot me in the leg, I guess” party loses, everyone dies, and nobody gets to have opinions about anything ever again.
That's certainly one opinion on the matter... coincidentally one perfectly aligned with a partisan propaganda viewpoint and, thus far, is nothing but alarmist hyperbole.
I think we can both agree that voting to avoid bad outcomes rather than to select good ones is fucked.
I can’t fathom why someone would “choose” an impossible outcome that ultimately makes the fatal scenario more likely
Does voting third party or abstaining somehow increase the count of votes for Republicans? I realize I've been out of school a while, but my understanding was it did not.
. It strikes me as irrational, which I could ignore if it were mere self-sabotage, but this affects others too.
Would this be more or less irrational than actively perpetuating the problems with a party and its candidates by guaranteeing them your vote for no reason other than they're not as bad as a different party?
Oh, hey, how about that - didn't expect to see an r/Iowa refugee over here. Welcome to the greener pastures that are generally just as painfully, unthinkingly liberal but far less cancerous.
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One idiot put one idiot in danger - don't victim blame.