idoubledo @ idoubledo @lemmy.sdf.org

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All of that is factually incorrect, the Palestinians never agreed to a state, so legally it was never theirs.

And all the surrounding Arab countries threw a tantrum fit as soon as Israel was created, tried to destroy it, and are now crying for losing the war they started.

Get your facts straight.

Here, I fixed the title for you: "Hamas still refuses to release hostages taken in unprovoked October 7 attack despite suffering of Gaza civilian population"

That makes rape the fastest way to statehood

So the fastest way to statehood is rape?

Toronto Police respond

The Toronto Police Service has responded to these claims by accusing protesters of aggression against police, including flinging horse manure at officers and using a flagpole “to spear at an officer.”

A truck driver was charged at the protest under the Highway Safety Act, for allegedly operating a truck with occupants in the bed of the moving vehicle. Protesters call this selective enforcement.

Why is it that "peaceful protests" never seem to actually be peaceful, or lawful?

That poll figures don't prove your claim

"Journalists" https://x.com/AdinHaykin1/status/1756743721020690751?s=20

Actually, Ben Gvir does nothing but tweet.

Wait, so you want Israel to bomb fuel tanks in tunnels hidden beneath civilian buildings? Are you Ben-Gvir?

quibbling over which hospital is okay to blow up

No hospital was blown up in this conflict according to what I know, I'll be happy if you show me evidence of that.

or how much the Israelis should be allowed to starve the Gazan

Nobody is allowing any such thing: There are thousands of hostages relatives and friends who are understandably very distraught due to this all situation, and for them sitting, probably not even in their home since October 7th, and seeing the aid pouring into Gaza while their loved ones are rotting in some Hamas terror tunnel will understandably make them want to do something about it. The police is obviously hesitant to use force on people in this situation, especially given they are most likely affected by the current fighting and understand that Hamas is stealing and abusing this aid to prolong the fighting.

The above is my explanation, not an endorsement for their actions. I'm sure this matter will be resolved, if not already.

Hamas might have killed a bit less than 1000 civilians, but IDF has killed 20 times more

Notice how you know the exact civilian vs combatant numbers for the Israeli side but not for the Palestinians. IDF claims a 7-9k dead combatants, so that's an almost 2:1 ratio, which is unheard of especially in this dense urban fighting while Hamas tries to maximize civilian casualties.

They are also responsible for the destruction of almost half the civilian infrastructure there, the destruction of civilian homes, agricultural land, mass starvation, has created dire humanitarian catastrophe, damaged hospitals, killed paramedics, kids, manage to turn this war the deadliest for journalists in modern history, committed numerous war crimes

Yeah, all of that is on Hamas

and you still defend them?

Israel is the only side who had actually strived for peace over the years, that enthusiasm for peace has been tested to the extreme and unfortunately dwindled for obvious reasons, but even after the horrific events of October 7th you can still find voices calling for a two state solution. There was no such attempts for peace from the Palestinians, on the contrary - just more missiles and terror attacks for every attempt at a permanent settlement of the conflict. So, yeah, of course I defend them.

Shall we also mention that you managed to frustrate greatly even your closest ally the US, who is getting more annoyed with you by the day and now you are planning to attack Rafah, where more than half of the population of Gaza is sheltering, pushing them more to the abyss of despair.

Hamas is an obstacle to peace and must be disabled, they can stop this war now if they wanted by releasing the man, woman, children and babies (!) they currently hold captive, and surrender. If they don't do that Israel had no other viable course of action to get rid of this threat, hopefully with as little civilian casualties as possible.

And these are indisputable FACTS.

Some facts, some unsubstantiated propaganda, some opinions

Isn't it nice that a government takes care of its citizens?

The Gazans should complain to their elected government who not only failed to provide them security (see https://www.memri.org/reports/hamas-official-mousa-abu-marzouk-tunnels-gaza-were-built-protect-hamas-fighters-not), but also is the root cause of their suffering.

Regarding your second point - it's a military controlled area, if the military concludes that something is banned in that area due to its abuse by a terrorist group that's the way it should be, especially given the history of weaponization of dual use materials by this group (https://youtu.be/MvvqBcA-9yA).

Fuck those poor, helpless, blockaded, starving civilians that have been bombed from their homes, if we give them water/food/power/ceasefire it goes to Hamas

Where did I say that, why do you misquoted me?

That's not racism, that's just your interpretation of these events. All I did was to correct the commenter about the identity of those protesting.

I doubt you would do anything different if you would be in their shoes.

Yeah, go ahead and tell the Israeli Police/Army, who are most likely also a first/second circle of people who got personally affected by the acts of October 7th to forcibly evacuate people who are heart broken by the fact that their relatives are in a terror tunnel in Gaza, and the country which they live in and is supposed to get them out are instead sending aid which has been proven to be stolen by the same terrorists who have their relatives.

When this absurd theater of life interacts with reality not everything is that simple to achieve.

FYI most protestors on the border are either family of current Hamas hostages or people who were dislocated due to the war.

The writing was on the wall for a long time https://youtu.be/qkOPVXiTqoI

It's the peaceful Muslims again

The attacks started on Saturday in the villages of Ogota and Oimbe in Bankass circle, in the Mopti region, Bankass Mayor Moulaye Guindo said in a phone interview.

"Armed men burst in, surrounded and attacked the two villages, Ogota and Oimbe, located side by side. They shot at the populations and set fire to the houses," Guindo said.

"The toll is heavy, around 30 deaths including men, women and children. The two villages were completely destroyed and burned," he said.