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  • I mean personally I think that's more likely to be the real reason – they mostly looked they just didn't give a flying fuck and didn't want to be there.

    I just find these justifications of "well they're busy defending our nation so they don't learn marching" idiotic

  • They can dEfEnD oUr NaTiOn against brown peasants, but can't march in step because they apparent forget how to do so after basic training? Shit, it's been over 20 years since my military service and I'm 100% sure I could still manage to march in step

  • Ah yes, the good old "everybody else is an NPC, but I, the superior specimen, see things clearly".

    And yes, I already know how some people will respond to this - with some version of “I’ve never had those issues, maybe you’re the problem.”

    Maybe you don't quite have things as figured out as you think you do?

    It's not that I'm trying to say what you're describing isn't a problem, but this tired schtick in itself is just another "script" as you called them, and I seriously doubt variations of that are going to be the main response. This line of thinking isn't particularly novel in any way, in some ways people have been going "y'all are just automatons" for thousands of years now, and eg. Yrjö Kallinen, a Finnish politician, talked about this stuff in the 70's and probably earlier too (there's a playlist of this on Youtube in Finnish for any Finnish speakers who might be interested) – the phrasing he used was that most people live like they're "in a dream".

    So, it's not necessarily that you're wrong, but that this kind of "automation" is a lot more widely recognised that you give people credit for

  • Some of them definitely are, and those ones are being led by the nose by psychopaths who won't stop at anything to have absolute power.

    Conservatism as a belief system is attractive to either psychopaths who want power and to hurt the Other with impunity, or – in a word – idiots who can't handle complexity and need a society that's hierarchical and with clearly defined roles for everyone (and these two aren't necessarily exclusive: someone can be a stupid psychopath.)

  • Oh yeah I'd loooooove it if this was some sort of absolutely bonkers new propulsion tech – let alone FUCKING ALIENS AKJDSAJKDASJKA – but it just doesn't seem very likely. Keeping something like completely new physics secret for decades, eh, I don't see that happening.

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  • Riiight yes, gotcha.

    Hmm considering how big the VentureStar would have been, my off-the-cuff airship theory seems like it might make sense - at least if we're not assuming some sort of extremely secret completely noiseless new propulsion technology, which just doesn't seem like something they'd be testing in populated areas where everybody can see them.

    Shit, could just be a lighter than air "disinfo craft" – purpose-built to make people go "holy fuck what the hell is that thing", to make it seem like the US is fielding some sort of completely insane near-magical technology.

  • Huh, that was an interesting article. I thought the failure of the honeycomb structure to work for the fuel tanks was what killed the X-33 and I'd never heard of that aluminum-lithium alloy; it isn't even mentioned in the X-33 wiki article.

    Aaaanyhow, an SSTO vehicle with any sort of "traditional" engine (incl aerospike) wouldn't be quiet by any definition, though. But thanks for that link! It really was super interesting, and I definitely get why you're annoyed.

  • Yeah that's pretty much what I had in mind. But why would they have something like that though?

    Then again this is all 100% conjecture so it could very well be some SUPER SECRET ALIEN TECH 🤷 Pretty damn unlikely but the world's gotten pretty damn unlikely recently

  • It just seems so weird that they'd be flying a super-duper-secret experimental aircraft somewhere that populated. Not that I'm saying you're lying about anything, just that what you described seems really weird

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