hoodatninja @ hoodatninja @kbin.social

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Of course there are a lot of posts about it. There are big changes happening over at Twitter right now. It will obviously settle down eventually, but it’s an ongoing, pretty significant event.

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People are treating this platform exactly like reddit because the churn of posts is exactly the same. You participate in the first hours or you miss it entirely.

Well the next time a community bans a topic you think should be allowed you make sure to remember this comment lol

Couldn't agree more. Every computer I have, no matter how old, can connect and do most things fine.

Because lemmy, like Reddit, is not conducive to the concept of a megathread. It’s the format that’s the problem, not the contents. You expect people to constantly stop what they’re doing and deliberately navigate to an old megathread and then sort through all the comments/conversations happening with days - weeks even - of gaps between them? Nobody does that.

I’m not advocating for vandalism, but people don’t usually key cars for no reason

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I hope you can appreciate and understand that the decision was made, in part, because we had users asking for it.

So the squeaky wheel gets the oil it sounds like. I see a bunch of people in this thread saying it's a terrible idea. What's the bar for action?

However it won’t be possible to make every user here happy.

I understand but there are other solutions besides banning incredibly relevant topics.

We’ve taken the actions that we thought were best based on the desires of some of our users.

As a former mod I respect this, truly, and I'm not going to go on crusade here I'm keeping my thoughts here for now. But the fact is we both know megathreads do not stay active and no one likes to participate in them because they know no one sees them. At the bare minimum you need this to be a weekly megathread you post. This is way too broad to just entirely prohibit outside of a single thread no one will see. If you're taking suggestions, that's my slightly-less-crappy solution.

At the very least I'd respect this a lot more if we didn't pretend this didn't end these topics for good.

Within 5 days the megathread will have 1 to 0 comments a day. And that's a generous estimate. You know this.

Whether you do or don't, it's a flagrant attempt to end the topics without owning up to it. It's window dressing.

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News about the companies that don’t involve him are still allowed outside the thread.

That is not entirely correct.

so we’ve decided to create a general Megathread for all things related to Elon Musk and X/Twitter.

This thread will be a general Musk catch-all, so we’re including news about Musk acting the fool as related to any of his companies (SpaceX, Tesla, Boring).

So 1) ALL things X/Twitter/Musk, 2) you can only talk about his other companies if it doesn't involve him (which are the vast majority of stories about his companies).

This is functionally banning Musk and his companies from being discussed. No one will check the megathread. We both know this.

So the solution is to all but ban any discussion of him or his companies, all of which are pretty important topics, particularly in US tech news?

I can't stand the dude, he's garbage. I wish he'd fade out of the limelight and let smart people take his companies forward. But to functionally ban any discussions because he's too present is a big over-correction.

I get that but all this solution does is effectively ban any discussions of Musk, Tesla, SpaceX, or Twitter.

Well it depends on your goals with the platform. If you want a one stop shop to get all the necessary information in an efficient time then megathreads are great.

Nobody on Reddit, Lemmy, etc. behaves that way. Nobody checks megathreads unless it’s an ongoing, high profile situation. I guarantee you this megathread is going to get essentially no engagement within 48 hours and now for some odd reason all news about SpaceX, Twitter, and Tesla is functionally banned.

So despite the fact that a ton of current tech news revolves around Elon musk and his companies, the solution is to bury any and all discussion about him in a megathread we all know people will never read or comment on?

Y’all have functionally banned all news related to Elon musk, Twitter, Tesla, and SpaceX.

My guess is some of them simply don’t like people saying bad things about musk and just want to stifle discussion.

I don’t think I really need to tell y’all that megathreads are, as a general rule, worthless. The only way they are even moderately useful is if they are recurring, such as a weekly megathread for beginner questions on a technical/hobbyist sub. A static, one time megathread means that no one will ever talk about it at all. That is not the right call.

Anybody who has been a mod for more than a week knows that a megathread only stifles discussion unless it’s some major event happening in real time, such as Jan 6th. I get you don’t want musk spam but you’re over correcting.