halyk.the.red @ halykthered @lemmy.ml

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I agree, if they have the means to switch and can find a suitable replacement, they should. The point I was getting at is that if OP decides to search and dig and research, if they're able to find a company they agree with, only to get skin they're not comfortable with, seems like an unfortunate waste of time and effort and money.

At this point, though, it's more of a thought experiment of ethical consumption under capitalism. There's too many 'if' statements to realistically defend or justify every line of thought in this discussion. I wish OP the best of luck in finding a new soap.

I agree that ethics aren't binary, and the threshold of your selection is defined by which evils you're willing to tolerate. How much grey are you willing to support?

I don't believe the slope to nihilism is that slippery. I was merely trying to advocate for OP's mental wellbeing. If they're able to find a soap they like that isn't related to the company they're trying to avoid, good for them.

However, undoubtedly, whatever company they select will have some shades of grey. For the sake of argument, let's say Company A is supporting a war OP disagrees with. Company B is committing wage theft and is polluting the environment worse than Company A.

Now OP has to decide. Short of making their own soap, they have to support something they might not be completely comfortable with. Or, which is the point I was originally trying to make, is that we all have to deal with shady companies doing awful things and there is little we can do about it. So OP might as well use the soap that makes them happy with how their skin feels.

Or perhaps OP could shoplift the soap they prefer. They get the skin they enjoy without having to support big box stores or they company that makes the soap. We have options here.

There's no ethical consumption under capitalism. Whatever brand you switch to will probably have some horrible shit going on that we're unaware of. When forced to choose between the lesser of two evils, you still have to justify an evil. Just buy whatever makes you happiest and try to put good into the world.

I always struggled with this question as a kid. It wasn't until I was much older I realized it for the capitalist propaganda that it is.

Ah okay, thanks for the clarification. I came over with the reddit migration, so I'm still learning.

This is the first article I've read where they've referred to the fediverse as the "Threadiverse". Seems to imply Threads is a central part to the fediverse.