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  • By "some people" he means "Toto Wolff" right?

  • It was. Most of it's criticism comes from the fact that it's not really an assassin's creed game anymore. It was mostly far cry: ancient greece

  • ...Just says there's a transponder that's supposed to judge if there was movement. It says nothing about how said transponder achieves that judgement. It doesn't simply senses movement as you astutely pointed out the car very obviously moved. That means it needs a reference point.

    So Is it gps? Is it an accelerometer? Is there another sensor on the grid it has to cross? Is it telemetry? Why is there this much wiggle room?

  • I would honestly be interested about where you got that the transponder is based on movement vs position. And I don't say that to catch you in a lie at all I am thoroughly honestly interested in this and would like to learn more about this tech.

    edit: and yes from the in-board cam it does look like at least the contact patch was in-front you are right.

  • Well he was far enough not to trip the transponder no matter what the camera suggests.

  • Ahh didn't know about that thanks for the precision. Still feels a bit harsh to me, especially the second one where he went wide.

  • Yep that's exactly my concern. This seems abusable. Drivers could theoretically stop further back from the grid and use that distance to get the car rolling before fully dropping the clutch, limiting tire slip. Someone posted the rules about grid placement and while there is a rule against sideways position or angle, there isn't anything about being further back. It's probably not going to happen but I personally would try that short rolling start in practice just to see.

  • I'm not so sure about your second point. He might have set up further back (probably unvoluntarily) so even when he jumped he didn't cross the limit of the grid box. This would also mean that they didn't have any infringement on the rules you posted so they couldn't just give him a penalty.

    I remember some years ago it was possible to measure drivers reaction time at the start. I remember Bottas even had an almost impossible reaction of a couple thousands of a second, he probably got lucky but it still was after the reds went out. So how about using clutch release telemetry or wheel speed sensors data and compare that to exactly when they shut the lights? If that difference is anywhere under 0.000, you jumped. It would still be incredibly hard to judge while not allowing any form of movement before the lights are actually out.

  • I understood that the first time yeah. And I think you agree with me since you edited your comment to further explain your idea. I'm not contradicting your argument, I agree with it and appreciate that you addressed my criticism. I think it's a hot enough topic to warrant being a bit less open to interpretation, especially in text form.

  • Kinda dismisses the real criticism people have with guns yeah. They are not advocating against them simply because "they look scary".

  • I agree that it was detrimental to him this time around since he lost focus and actually started far after the others because of it. I'm still interested in seeing if the decision was made because he actually fucked his own start or if it was because the sensors didn't detect the jump though. If it's the sensors I believe it could open pandora's box as it would be a definitive advantage to get even the slightest of rolls before dropping the clutch.

  • Gotcha, last sentence sounded a little bit pro-gun though hence my response. I still think the ease of access is the main issue, by far. I would probably be dead if I was american as I could've easily got a cheap 9mm to off myself during the worse times. It was easier to reach out than to buy a glock and I seriously think it saved my life.

  • They were too busy giving 10 sec penalties to Magnussen for actual racing. Ok maybe the Albon pinch was penalty worthy but 10 seconds?

  • Ahh might be I was just going from memory. Was Bottas though.

  • Yeah I remember him having a crazy 0.00something reaction time. I even remember Vettel straight up saying he didn't believe that in post races interviews. It was probably a case of perfect anticipation more than reaction.

  • I hope this is not going to give others ideas though. Don't want to see the guys line up further back just to try and get more momentum before the lights.

  • He had 20 seconds of penalties so that's probably it.

  • Yep, Max is fast enough to be a championship contender in either of the Top 4 teams right now, maybe top 5 considering what Alonso is doing in that Aston.

    I also agree that RedBull would be stupid to not choose him over Horner. He absolutely destroyed 4 teammates with this team so far. You know, people that drive the same car, in the same team headed by the same people. The car sure is fast but this combination is all conquering and whatever you say Horner's maybe the fourth person responsible for that right now, and that's conservative.