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Electric cars are still cars, and therefore do fuck-all to fix the real problem of excessive use of land for parking lots, low-density zoning, and lack of walkability.

The only way to have communities that are healthy and sustainable (ecologically, financially, or otherwise) is to fix the zoning code so that folks don't need to drive in the first place.

Huge budget surplus

That's an indication of mismanagement because it just means they're refusing to fund all the stuff they're supposed to be doing.

Trust me, you don't want to be trying to maintain legacy Jython code at this point, let alone use it for anything new. All the "normal" Python infrastructure like Pip etc. has moved on and broken compatibility, so you'd have to find and maintain locally the last working compatible version of every single package you use. I suppose you could use Java libraries, but the impedance mismatch trying to use LBYL explicitly typed stuff in EAFP python is terrible. It's just a horrible mess.

It requires different strategies that efforts toward smaller cars (or electric cars, or autonomous cars, for that matter) do not contribute to and could in fact distract or detract from.

After all, folks might think "why keep trying to make me change my car centric lifestyle when we've 'already solved' the pedestrian safety problem (or the environmental problem or whatever)," not realizing there are so many more interconnected problems that only a change in development patterns can address.

is Jython still a thing?

No. (Source: I had to try to keep its zombie corpse shuffling along at my last job.)

I want it to become the mascot of !fuck_cars

As an Atlanta resident, I'm willing to take the risk.

I hope this doesn't make me regret opposing Milton County.

That's fair. My frustration about the truck circlejerking has been building for a while, and I was venting.

He's also not the leader of the A-Team.

throws chair "Fine, it's just GNU then!"

All this shit seems so futile though. I just want the jumbo sidewalks with a bike lane to be everywhere.

Sidewalks and bike lanes don't get used unless (a) destinations are packed closely enough together for enough trips to be in reasonable walking or cycling distance, and (b) the experience is reasonably pleasant (i.e., not a no-man's-land sandwiched between a stroad and a bunch of parking lots).

In other words, it's the zoning that has to be fixed first, by increasing density and removing minimum parking requirements.

Yes, it is funny that folks here apparently just want to circlejerk scapegoating big trucks while downvoting any actual urbanist who dares to point out that they're focusing on the wrong problem.

You know what causes pedestrian fatalities? The presence of cars of any size.

You know what eliminates pedestrian fatalities? Deleting parking lots and pedestrianizing streets.

Who cares if the parking spaces are 8x18 or 10x20 or whatever? That doesn't matter. What matters is dipshits continuing to insist on building fifty of them when they ought to be building zero!

Switching fifty people from driving big trucks to driving small cars does nothing but chip around the edges of the problem because they're still fucking driving. That means, for example, you're still building suburban-style strip malls for them when you should be building walkable main streets instead.

The issue here is that we need to switch (back) to an entirely different style of urban development, and the size of cars does precisely fuck-all to help with that!

Have you never had to street park a vehicle or are you a complete moron?

Have you stopped beating your wife yet? (See, two can play the "bad-faith compound question" game.) Now fuck off with the childish insults.

They're wider meaning they cramp the roads horizontally as well (while driving or parked)

A lane is a lane! The narrowest car and the widest car both take up one whole lane each. Unless it's narrow enough to split the lane two abreast, it doesn't fucking matter how wide it is!

There's no logical defense of these compensation-mobiles other than "I like them" and that's fine, you're allowed to like them. Leave it at that.

Get some reading comprehension skills! The claim that I'm defending compensation-mobiles is a goddamn lie. I'm not defending large automobiles; I'm attacking all automobiles and questioning why others are not.

What's actually happening here is that others are trying to conjure up some artificial distinction between big trucks and the rest of the automotive infestation, most likely in order to deflect blame for their own still shitty and car-dependent midsize sedan (or whatever) lifestyle, and are butthurt that I'm not uncritically accepting it.

The bottom line is that cars ruin cities. All cars, without exception! Anybody who denies that — i.e. anybody who tries to only complain about only a subset of the cars — is part of the problem.

No, it probably wouldn't have happened in the first place, because the driver of a sensibly-sized car can see things that are less than fifty fucking feet ahead of the dash.

[X] doubt

If big trucks were banned, muderous MAGA psychopaths would just mow down cyclists using Dodge Chargers or whatever instead.

Some require much more public space

Bullshit. A subcompact takes up exactly the same "one parking space" as a truck, and is therefore just as bad.

they are materially worse than other consumer vehicles

Not in the way that actually matters, which is their effect on low-density zoning and minimum parking requirements. A parking space is a parking space is a parking space — they're all (roughly) the same size!