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Is gender an indicator on its own?

I’m not sure if you mean the social construct or the sex assigned at birth. Probably the latter as you mentioned “on its own”.

I have a lot of issues with the social construct as it’s basically a nicer word for “stereotype”. It looks like men and women alike suffer because of these stereotypes. The social constructs, the stereotypes, are the basis for bias. To me it seems like gender never is “on its own”. It’s the way we perceive the biological sex and compare it to our expectations.

Sex on the other hand is no indicator on its own, I think.

And I agree statistics is always a problem, that’s why LLMs are problematic in a lot of ways.

Thanks for the voice of reason in this sea of hate.

From my pov it would be best to have completely anonymised applications and no involvement of AI in the hiring process.

Yes, that’s correct, I am easily distracted, I have adhd. Sorry if I can’t be as focused as you can.

So they admit, that there’s a huge bias against women, black people, …

And then they claim it must be a bias against men. Maybe it’s not a bias, maybe it’s the interpretation of studies which found out that there are certain areas where women are better in their jobs than men, and the AI considered those studies despite the bias against women.

Leadership & Management

Study: Harvard Business Review (2019) Finding: Women scored higher than men in 12 out of 16 leadership competencies.

https://hbr.org/2019/06/research-women-score-higher-than-men-in-most-leadership-skills

Medicine

Study 1: JAMA Internal Medicine (2017) Finding: Patients treated by female doctors had lower mortality rates.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2593255

Stdy 2: Annals of Internal Medicine (2024, UCLA) Funding: Female patients treated by female doctors had 8.15% mortality vs 8.38% with male doctors (2016–2019 data)

https://www.uclahealth.org/news/release/treatment-female-doctors-leads-lower-mortality-and-hospital

Sales Performance

Source: Xactly Insights (2017) Finding: 86% of women met their sales quotas, vs. 78% of men.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbescoachescouncil/2017/03/21/women-in-sales-beating-the-numbers/

Education / Teaching

Source: OECD TALIS Survey Finding: Female teachers report better classroom climate and higher student engagement.

https://www.oecd.org/en/about/programmes/talis.html

Edit: I can see quite a lot of offended men :)

I’m a bit distracted by the black eye.

It’s football not soccer.

I’m just so tired of people dealing with the climate change as if it was inevitable, like some karma shit. A lot of people just don’t want to change. They want to keep going like they used to and that’s driving me insane.

How badly we need AC?

How about “how badly we need to get our shit together to stop human caused climate change”?

Ethics and morals are only considered when they’re not in the way of power and profit.

and insane politicians

FFS, why does Trump look like he’s about to suck cock in every damn picture?

“I would give anything to have an assistant who understood my voice and context and my intent well enough “

Translation: I don’t want to put in the effort to make myself clear to others, I want to babble along being dependent on a machine to communicate with others and while we are at it, I want the machine to consider all my wishes and implement the rhetoric to manipulate everyone listening to my machine to do my bidding.