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  • Israel says that the West Bank settlers are used for security checkpoints that keep terrorists from attacking out of the West Bank, considering the lower rate of terrorist attacks, it seems to work.

    Though I agree. Israel should pull out of the West Bank entirely, though there is that risk of more terrorist attacks.

    The UN tried in two separate accounts of making Jerasuelum a neutral secular state, both times Israel was all for it, and both times Palestine was against it, even declaring war they were against it that much. Mind you, Palestine didn't have a government back then, so it was terrorists declaring war.

    Also I dislike the whole open-air prison sentiment when it came about from Palestinian Terrorists own doing, attacking their neighbours and trying to overthrow the local governments there.

  • Well, the point is how can Israel, or the US, or any country, really--convince Hamas to cease its terrorism? There were decent attempts with the Oslo records, but then one terrorist attack, Palestine swearing for Israel's destruction and then Israel back onto the offensive.

  • well actual neo-nazis are against trump because he was pro-israel, but whatev

  • Can we talk about defence? Particularly logistics and costs? Military isn't cheap.

  • I think Israel should stop their settlement expansions into the west bank. But the land lost by Palestine and the Arab League during the wars should remain as Israel's--such is war.

  • And ignoring the Arab League point is also conveniently ignoring Russia, France and Britain occupying Palestine, as well as the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and WW1. Though, I'm not going to insult you for that, since that's against the rules.

  • If you're referring to the massacres being a consequence (and not justifying, I hope), know that Gaza and Hamas separate themselves from the West Bank, which is where the settlements are occurring.

  • When have Palestinians invaded Israeli land?

    During the many times the Arab League declared war. They lost though, which is why they've been limited to Gaza and West bank.

    But more importantly, this genocide is not a two way street. There are terrorist attacks but that pales in comparison to an all out genocide. When have Palestinians leveled whole neighborhoods or dropped chemical weapons on people? Israelis are determined to kill or at least displace the millions of remaining Palestinians and it’s disingenuous to say that’s the same thing the Palestinians are doing.

    It very much is. The situation in Palestine and Israel has always been very back and forth, with terrorist attacks from both sides, military strikes into each other's territories, the deaths of innocent civilians, such and such. No one is a saint here, except for those caught in the crossfire.

  • depends on the sub for reddit. Worldnews is heavy Israel, while publicfreakout and therewasanattempt are very heavy palestine

  • You really shouldn't argue this, since it always goes both ways in every single scenario.

  • Unfortunately most humanitarian aid ends up in Hamas' hands

  • And how does the UN/Israel punish Hamas for the hundreds of civilians that were massacred on the day?

  • dunno what they're expecting Britain to do.

  • The headquarters are 400 metres away. And the IDF didn't capture Hamas civilians.

  • I would negotiate with Palestinian leadership, offering them a path towards autonomy and freedom

    Israel and the UN tried that already. Hamas said no.