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Give me a number.

They voted like shit bags for decades and we're all paying the price. Yes.

Then Biden won in 2020 without my help and you can ignore me and anyone who thinks like me. 🤷‍♂️

Of course that means you'd have to blame somebody else if he loses in 2024. My vote can't simultaneously not matter in 2020 and be 100% responsible for the outcome of 2024. You need to pick a lane.

I said there has been no incremental progress and I stand by that because personally setting what you've described against higher housing costs, education, food and healthcare along with rising temperatures means we are all worse off including you.

Don't confuse my willingness to set aside my own personal perspectives as moving the goal posts. Us arguing over who's right there isn't going to result in anything productive and you know it. So I set aside my personal perspectives and asked you to expand on yours.

Your response suggests you've never actually thought about it.

Ok. You're telling me this is incremental progress because what you've gained is worth more than everything else that's gotten worse. Fine. I'll accept that in the context of this conversation.

How much more expensive does housing, education, healthcare and food have to get before we can focus on it? How hot does the planet have to get before we can focus on it?

When do we stop focusing on a specific experience someone has because of their race, gender or whatever else because the overall experience of everyone has gotten so bad we need to address it?

There is no way I am more responsible for Joe Biden losing the general election than Joe Biden himself.

There is no way I am more responsible for Joe Biden losing the general election than the people who voted for him in the 2020 primaries.

Stop trying to saddle me with responsibility for other people's terrible decisions. It's pathetic.

Not a single Dem has that power nor would have wished a GOP candidate as bad for America as Convicted Felon and Sex Offender Treason Trump.

Factually false.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-2016-donald-trump-214428/

No it keeps shifting right because Moderate Democrat voters and Establishment Democrats sabotage any and all efforts to move it left.

Make up your mind. If you didn't need us to win the 2020 general election you don't need us in 2024.

besides student loans forgiven

Student loan forgiveness was rejected by the supreme court. All the loan forgiveness you're seeing is the result of the PSLF program signed by G.W. Bush in 2007. Are you trying to give Biden credit for something Bush did?

medicare insulin capped

Boomers got what they wanted. Yay.

biggest climate bill ever

Sure. This isn't nothing. However you should compare what's in the IRA compared to what was in the BBB. The BBB is what Biden and Bernie worked on together. The BBB did not pass. This was a very disappointing outcome.

a president walking in a picket line

Fucking bread crumbs. Biden blocked the rail strike. The rail workers were fighting for 15 sick days. Some have 7. Most have less than that. Some sound byte by an IBEW administrative worker doesn't change that. Our votes are worth more than that.

You don't get to define what is "everything we wanted". Biden does not deserve our votes. Our votes are worth more than what he's done. If you don't like it find someone else to vote for your procorporate trash candidate.

And you're asking us to elect procorporate trash.

No.

What a pathetic deflection away from the fact that Democrat boomers are still boomers and vote like the selfish pieces of shit they are.

No the only way possible to move to the left is to not vote for procorporate trash in the primaries. You made shit decisions in the past and here we are.

No, we all had the perfect solution for what to do BEFORE Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump was elected.

YES.

And by the same token we had multiple solutions for what to do BEFORE Biden the geriatric, procorporate establishment trash candidate was elected in the 2020 primaries.

EDIT: Lol downvote away pathetic hypocrites.

How many people do you think had $400 monthly premiums for individual plans back in 2007?

Yeah this "you're throwing a tantrum because you didn't get everything you wanted" is rich coming from the people who got Joe Biden elected in the 2020 primaries. It's pure projection on their part. They would throw a tantrum if they didn't get everything they wanted. The moment progressives start dominating primaries these people will stop showing up to vote in the general election.

It's pure ego. They've built their personality around being "the good guys" compared to Republicans so when someone comes along and says "we need to do more" it's a crisis for them. They can't let anyone accomplish more than they did because it would force them to admit they became complacent.

Democrat voting Boomers are still Boomers at the end of the day. Selfish pieces of shit.

Yes I'm sure this is exactly how you evaluated the situation in 2016. I'm sure you had a perfect solution for what to do after Trump was elected right? Of course not. You blamed people for not voting for HRC. You're a hypocrite.

In the same way I have no solution now that Biden was elected in the 2020 primaries. The stupidity of that move cannot be overstated. The fact that you don't want to talk about it tells me everything I need to know about you.

But then I guess you wouuldn’t get to be the perpetual victim and wah wah wah, the world is so mean.

This is a tacit defense of Boomers.