"We're the Democrats we can't possibly be responsible for any of this frustration and anger. Also have you heard those young people talking about workers rights and not supporting genocide? Ah to be young and naive."
No. I'm not going to continue to reward moderates and liberals for being inflexible. If they're not willing to do it now they're never going to be and fascism isn't just a possibility it's a guarantee. Let's get it overwith.
Agreed. And if we look even a decade into the future what happens when leftists and progressives voters suddenly start dominating primaries? Are moderates and liberals going to show up in the general elections then? I think we all know the answer.
Fascism isn't a possibility, it's a guarantee and it will be moderates and liberals who are to blame.
I'll be voting but it won't be for Biden or Trump. If you want me to vote for him then figure out how to make him listen to the people he's depending on to get elected.
It has no chance of becoming a reality without the help of moderates and liberals who have made it very clear they would rather lose to MAGA than compromise with leftists and progressives.
People have yet to acknowledge the first implications of this. If we believe the numbers of progressives and leftists are growing there will come a time when we begin winning primaries but will lose general elections consistently because moderates and liberals suddenly won't "vote blue no matter who". Which means fascism isn't just a possibility, it's guaranteed.
If moderates and liberals don't make different choices there's nothing we can do.
That cuts both ways. We don't believe Biden along with his moderate and liberal voters are taking the threat of Trump seriously when they refuse to compromise with leftists and progressives they're depending on for votes. If you believe Trump is half as dangerous as you say he is then cutting off weapon shipments is a bargain. Refusing to block strikes is a bargain. Pick a lane.
And in the mean time I will continue to point out Democrats have fucked around far too long on this. Stop saying it's "almost" done when you have no clue when it will actually happen. Stop celebrating fucking sound bytes.
Republicanism will destroy freedom if they continue to win unchecked.
Then the people who would refuse to vote for Biden in 2024 if he cuts off weapon shipments need to think long and hard which one is more important to them.
The crazy part to me is how there's all this focus on the obligations of progressives and leftists to compromise while ignoring the supposed reason why. If Biden would lose support for cutting off weapon shipments that means there are people who voted for Biden in 2020 but refuse to do so in 2024 because they want to support genocide.
Those are the people who deserve the lectures, shame and endless repetition of the "vote blue no matter who" mantra. Those people are not holding up their end of the bargain. They demand compromise yet yield nothing in return. While whining when Republicans do the exact same shit.
We all know what generation and ethnicity I'm talking about.
The fact that you’re against this tells me you wouldn’t qualify, and that you want to take money intended for those less fortunate than you.
Buddy, you just flew over the point that the GDP has been increasing for decades and the quality of life for Americans has gone down. Clearly this challenges your view that:
And increasing median income is preferable to increasing median wages, because it also helps people who are struggling to survive off their life savings.
Because there's over 50 years of evidence showing that's not how it plays out.
Then it should be easy for liberals and moderates to compromise with leftists and progressives.